Turmeric for Fatty Lipomas

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  1. SizzleDog

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    I've read that turmeric given in high enough doses will, in time, dissolve fatty lipomas. Ilsa has a couple, so I've decided to give it a try. She eats it just fine, it's too early to tell if it's working... but...

    one icky side effect. Ilsa smells funny now. Almost like cat pee. It's driving me nuts.
     
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    My last dog had about 7 or 8 removed during his life, the surgety was nothing much at all for him. I don't think the Tumeric will work.
     
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    Sizzle Dog ~ have you had any luck with the Tumeric?
     
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    I have *heard* about studies regarding the use of Tumeric to treat and cure cancer...
     
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    I can't speak for Sizzle Dog, but a friend and I were just discussing the "wonders" of Turmeric the other day. She's been giving it to a 10 year old doberman bitch..she said most of the fatty tumours have disappeared, a couple of larger ones are considerably smaller than they once were. So I definitely think it's worth a try.

    I've been giving tumeric to a 6 year old doberman male for it's anti inflammatory properties, and have noticed MAJOR improvement with a chronic limp. He also has liver issues, so we've been limited in what we could give him to make him more comfortable-this has been a great alternative for him.
     
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    I had to stop giving it to her - even the smallest dosage made her smell HORRIBLE! I was giving her a bath every three or four days, she just reeked of what smelled like cat urine... possibly the worst smelling she's ever been... three hours after a thorough bath, the smell would be overpowering again. ICK.

    They did change though - they got a bit smaller, and squishier it seems. I just couldn't tolerate the stench.

    I may try giving her straight curcumin though - it's the base of turneric - maybe something else in the turmeric made her stink to high heaven!
     
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    Apparently the curcumin in turmeric is a Cox-2 inhibitor - there is another Cox-2 inhibitor found in grapeskins and red wines - Reservatol. Now, I know grapes are toxic to dogs, but I'm wondering if reservatol is safe.
     
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    That's weird, Rush doesn't have any kind of odor from the turmeric he's been getting. After hearing that was happening with Ilsa, I asked my friend who's been giving it to her senior bitch-she hasn't had a problem with odor from it, either.
     
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    Does anyone know what the dosage would be? I have a friend that is having the same problem with her Rottie mix. She's about 80 pds.

    TIA!
     
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    Interesting topic... this may be something I'd like to try also with my 9yr old weim. So if anyone knows the dosage chart that would be very helpful. :)
     
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    The dosage I was given for lipomas was 500 mg. twice a day for a 60 lb. dog.

    If you look on the web, there's a lot of variation about dosages. One site suggests you load the food with turmeric until the dog won't eat it, then back off.

    This was posted on a site for canine cancer. curcurmin is a component of turmeric:

    "Recommended dosage of curcumin for treatment of cancer is 80
    mg/kg/day (36 mg/lb/day), or 400 mg twice a day for a 25 lb dog.,
    administered orally (the highest recommended dosage is 120 mg/kg/day,
    or 55 mg/lb/day, to avoid toxicity)."
     
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    There is no evidence that all Cox-2 inhibitors are unsafe. In fact, it's kind of a silver bullet and that is where pharmaceutical companies are spending huge money trying to find the next Cox-2 inhibiting anti-inflammatory (remember Vioxx, etc.). If Curcumin is a Cox-2 inhibitor, it might be a great natural way to treat joint pain, arthritis, etc.

    Further, the mechanism behind grape/raisin toxicity is still unknown. In fact, a lot of people still feed grapes/raisins to their dogs without any ill effects. Just because grape skins contain some level of Cox-2 inhibiting compounds doesn't make them toxic to dogs or related to turmeric.
     

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