Trick of the Week: Spin!

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  1. Taqroy

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    LOVE EVERYTHING. You guys and your dogs are all amazing.

    I know this is from forever ago but I like this idea a lot. This is essentially how we did it in Mu's tricks class - we added a trick every week or two but worked on all of them until the end. It worked great.

    I am way behind because I haven't had access to my dogs for almost a week. :eek: We will be playing catch up as soon as I can. Tipper and Murph already have left spins so I'll either work on spinning right, or on the cue since I don't think either of them are very reliable. Lol.
     
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    PWCorgi Priscilla Winifred Corgi

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    I decided to just try and shape a left spin (I say left, it's my left, not his. I'm more important, lol) since he has a really good right spin, but I couldn't even lure a left spin with him. He just doesn't go that way!

    I don't have high hopes, but here is our start.

    http://youtu.be/XCb2CjPgUqw

    Also, you can see that he is more stressy, heavy breathing, etc. in this than the other videos I posted. Shaping seems to be stressful for him, I just never noticed it before because he was stressed all the time anyway! So I use a higher rate of reinforcement than I normally would, and when I can tell that he is getting more frustrated I tend to just reinforce everything, whether it is what I want or not, just to keep his head in the game.
     
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    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/N_EacLppMW0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    I had to. Really I did.

    (Also, you can't deny that Frodo is really really ridiculously good looking.)
     
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    :rofl1::rofl1::rofl1:

    OMG that is so Frodo! His whole left side is just useless. Even with teaching him to shake I was able to shape his right paw super fast, and then spent like a week trying to get him to realize that he had ANOTHER ONE! Finally I just picked it up, clicked. Picked it up, clicked. And then it was like *lightbulb* holy crap I HAVE TWO!!

    And I think he's quite handsome as well, even if he isn't really to standard and a bit on the chubby side :p
     
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    Uh, him and Tipper have a lot in common. :rofl1: Just sayin.

    Now that I've actually watched the video, I think it would help the Fro-dog understand what he's doing if you change your reward placement. When he actually does a head turn you can reward him where his head should be, out to your left. If he just steps out to the left you can throw the treat to your right and then after he runs out to get it and turns his head/body coming back you can click the head turn and then reward in the turn position. If that makes any sense whatsoever. It'll make it easier to up your reinforcement rate.

    Actually I think it was Sara's video of Zing that had the reward placement I'm thinking of - Tipper really didn't know wtf I was doing until I started rewarding with her head turned. It's super awkward at first but it really helps.
     
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    LMAO oh God. Frodo's not an ambiturner...


    If it makes you feel any better I tried luring this with Pepper and she won't lure unless I actually put a hand under her belly and hold her front half still. As far as I can tell, she thinks my arm moving towards the back of her is a trick, and she freaks out and starts running around - not in a circle, just all over the place. Sigh. X_X


    ETA: I agree about the treat placement thing! Can't do it with Pepper (see above) so I've just been throwing the treats behind her and to the left, that's as good as I can get with her right now. I'm hoping that will serve the same purpose and encourage her to turn more to that side.
     
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    Thanks Taq, I am terrible at remembering to reward in place. Terrible!

    Yay for videos and suggestions. He is so getting way more food than normal today because I want to try this NOW!
     
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    It's one of the first things I look at because it made such a ginormous difference in how fast shaping goes for us. :p It is really hard to remember until you get used to it though!
     
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    Oh man everyone's dogs look so great!!! The paps are cracking me up bigtime! And Kimma has totally got it! Super cute! :)
    Sad/glad to see T is getting a forever home... you need your own GSD. :p

    So this morning was the first I had a chance to work on spin. Scout was very confused, lol. But we started shaping it and she's doing good! She's getting better duration/balance on her sit pretty too!

    Lily's got this spin thing like a boss following my finger as a target. So will just have to work on adding cues an fading the finger target. Of course when I got out the camera it all went to pot and she was like I have no idea what I'm doing!! Lol, so uploading that, but I may not show it because I'm pretty sure its awful. And I missed marking and rewarding her offering spin at the begining of it, doh! We did some mroe after the video fail and she did really good!
     
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    HAHA, oh Pepper!

    Frodo's like "I'll just side step all the way across the room, that's what you wanted, right??!"
     
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    I was going to say the same thing about reward placement for Fromo! He's getting it though! Spin was seriously one of the more difficult things I've shaped.
     
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    DH has been working with Zander more, and he did spin in both directions for him last night. I was actually pretty surprised, he is usually pretty stubborn about going in the other direction. I trained it with a lure, though, so that could partly be why.

    I'm hoping to get a video either tonight or tomorrow. Zane's been super sore the last few days and I've been giving him as much doggie massage lovin's as I can. Think we need a Chiro appointment sometime soon.
     
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    Yay Zane! :)
     
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    Abe is struggling with this one.

    We started by reshaping a head turn which turned into him only wanting to do his "where's your pee pee" trick.
     
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    All together now! :p

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/SkKM-wCwmh0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    Yeah I totally lured these. But to be fair, I taught the original spin before knowing much about shaping. Even with the luring it's still one of their stronger behaviors.
     
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    Okay this first one is my final vid from last week that I didn't upload until today. Whoops. Its come farther since then too!
    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/08RmW9yyvRw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

    And here is our sad video from today for Spin. I totally didn't get all the best stuff on video. Sad pandas.

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/oJsMQkzzQn0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    I love the synchronized spinning LOL.

    No Pepper in this one - I think I may stop trying to teach her this for a while. This I think is just too difficult for where she's at in her thinking development, and it's just frustrating us both.

    <iframe width="420" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/gDeAGwEIp50" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    Nice job, Beanie! Looking good!

    Boone's progress:
    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/fhD4HX8Sb_4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
    I think that about does it. All I need to do now is improve his speed of response and increase the speed of the actual spin itself.
     
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    I think I need Lily and Boone immediately.

    Pip does the same thing as Lily - head turn, then bail on the spin. He's getting much better though. For some reason, Pip is really jolly about this trick - he wasn't very enthusiastic about sitting up so I kind of bailed on that one with him.

    God I love Payton's little happy butt.

    Anyway, here we are today, hand signal a bit reduced. Maisy is the best at the hand signal so far -- I wish I had been taping when this happened, but one day when her turn was over I pointed at the futon for her to hop up and she threw in a little spin before she got up there.

    <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/ZM_i2P7kUI0?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
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    Can next week's trick be to remove the lid from some kind of box, basket, garbage can, etc? I just saw a really cute opening-a-picnic-basket-via-nudging video and I want to teach that!
     

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