tie out question

Discussion in 'Dogs - General Dog Chat' started by darkchild16, Jul 30, 2011.

  1. darkchild16

    darkchild16 We are Home.

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2004
    Messages:
    21,880
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Occupation:
    3
    Location:
    Tallahassee Florida
    We might need to get a tie out (possibly moving to a house on a unfenced acre) and im thinking for Layla i wanna do mtn rope. I HATE the wire ones and she should be small enough that a mtn rope would be fine. Also would you harness a dog her size on a tie out?
     
  2. stardogs

    stardogs Behavior Nerd

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2009
    Messages:
    4,925
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    2 dogs, 1 cat
    Location:
    NC
    Home Page:
    Will she be supervised when on it? If not, I prob would harness her and not use mtn rope since it's super easy to chew thru. If so, I'd harness if I was in an area with lots of distractions and/or a dog who wouldn't call off, otherwise I'd collar.
     
  3. darkchild16

    darkchild16 We are Home.

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2004
    Messages:
    21,880
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Occupation:
    3
    Location:
    Tallahassee Florida
    Yep i wont leave her out on it alone. The only distraction would be a squirrel or something. We are 1 of 3 houses all on acre plus lots that backup to the state forest.
     
  4. lizzybeth727

    lizzybeth727 New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2007
    Messages:
    6,403
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    Two dogs, three cats
    Location:
    Central Texas
    I've seen tons of dogs chew through harnesses, too. But as long as she won't do that, then a harness probably would be better than a collar for a tie out.
     
  5. darkchild16

    darkchild16 We are Home.

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2004
    Messages:
    21,880
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Occupation:
    3
    Location:
    Tallahassee Florida
    Im not worried about the chewing (wont be out alone since we have to watch walker anyway) im more thinking if she does see a small fuzzy.
     
  6. AdrianneIsabel

    AdrianneIsabel Glutton for Crazy

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2010
    Messages:
    8,893
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    2 Pit bulls and 2 Malinois, We like to stay busy.
    Location:
    Portland, Oregon
    Home Page:
    Harnesses actually cause more damage than collars on tie outs from what I understand. Dogs are more inclined to pull and chest slam in a harness than a collar.
     
  7. darkchild16

    darkchild16 We are Home.

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2004
    Messages:
    21,880
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Occupation:
    3
    Location:
    Tallahassee Florida
    Even with a smaller dog with a thin neck? We always used collars on our bullys but that was more because they would get more power in a harness then in a collar.

    Also if I were to use a collar she wears a 3/4 now and it is thin on her neck would you go up to a 1?
     
  8. JacksonsMom

    JacksonsMom Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2009
    Messages:
    8,694
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Maryland
    I would never use a collar on a tie-out personally.
     
  9. Maxy24

    Maxy24 Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2006
    Messages:
    8,070
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Occupation:
    Cats, Dog, Leopard Gecko, Gerbils, Fish, African C
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    I would use a harness. When Tucker hits the end of his long line on a collar he does back flips and that can't be good for his neck.
     
  10. Renee750il

    Renee750il Felurian

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2003
    Messages:
    94,266
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Occupation:
    3, Bimmer, GSDX (m); Kharma, Fila Brasileiro (f);
    Location:
    Where the selas blooms
    Home Page:
    My inclination is a harness, too. The chest and shoulders are a lot more forgiving than the neck.
     
  11. darkchild16

    darkchild16 We are Home.

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2004
    Messages:
    21,880
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Occupation:
    3
    Location:
    Tallahassee Florida
    Im thinking a petco brand puppia style for when we are out and playing and a decent collar for potty trips since she cant wear a harness 24/7 in the house and potty trips will be closely monitored.
     
  12. monkeys23

    monkeys23 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2011
    Messages:
    1,621
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    3 currently, counting the foster dog
    Location:
    PNW
    I personally do not feel comfortable leaving any dog on anything chewable unsupervised. So hell no I would not recommend moutain rope.

    I would recommend a sturdy cable set-up or a proper chain set-up.

    Mine have cable tie-outs at my moms... the cables are a couple years old and already need replaced from being worn by the active sled dog mutt girls. I have a couple sturdy chains I had made for camping that I will probably replace the cables with. One cable I bought at D&B... its a good thing Scout is a good girl because its a cheap P.O.S. The other was given to my parent's by the people who acted as brokers and helped them pick out their BC, I have no idea where they got it, but its sturdier. Which is good because Lily is a nut on her tie-out, typical sled dog theatrics lol.

    I'll be honest, I don't 100% trust the cable either. Both of them could chomp right through it if they really wanted to. They are a little more hardcore than the average pet dog though.

    Make sure the dog is wearing a properly fitted, very sturdy collar as well. No break aways (plastic, nickle, brass, hybrid.... doesn't matter what kind of snap it is DON'T use a breakaway, especially if the dog will be unsupervised!), martingales, no buckle slides, etc. I have used Lily's "For Ella" on her tie-out and it is more than adequate, however its not recommended for that use!
    The only collars I truly trust for tie-out are Shane's at Stillwater: Stillwater Kennel Supply --
    I use the 1.5" 4ply show collars. I put an extra O-ring on Lily's purple and yellow to help slow the wear on the collar since the colored nylon is softer than the black. In fact they are the only collars I trust 100% not to fail on Scout period.
     
  13. monkeys23

    monkeys23 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2011
    Messages:
    1,621
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    3 currently, counting the foster dog
    Location:
    PNW
    Exactly! Never use a harness. They can back right out of them.

     
  14. darkchild16

    darkchild16 We are Home.

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2004
    Messages:
    21,880
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Occupation:
    3
    Location:
    Tallahassee Florida
    Shes not a chewer and she will always be supervised shes too small to be in that area unsupervised (bears, gators and what not). Stillwater is overkill for her shes 30 lbs and not too strong. I'm looking at a ellas collar. She cant wear nylon long at all much less if shes outside sweating. I've tied out most of my life but never a dog this small I'm used to game bred APBT tied out and she does NOT need that set up at ALL. Shes not one to chest slam either and the harness im looking at is padded and she couldnt back out before i caught it.
     
  15. monkeys23

    monkeys23 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2011
    Messages:
    1,621
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Occupation:
    3 currently, counting the foster dog
    Location:
    PNW
    There are lots of 30lb dogs I wouldn't trust on a mtn rope.

    My parent's BC is not large at all, doesn't pull hard (but paces), only chews his bones, he's on a 1" biothane D end collar with an extra O-ring to clip his chain to. Its a lot lighter weight than what I use for my dogs because they are well sled dogs and they act like it.

    I have tied Lily out on her long line. Its a huge PITA because it catches on everything and its fraying etc.

    I would still not use a harness, or something chewable. But that is just me. Plus you wouldn't have to wash it periodically.
     
  16. darkchild16

    darkchild16 We are Home.

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2004
    Messages:
    21,880
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Occupation:
    3
    Location:
    Tallahassee Florida
    The only time she was on the coated wire she hurt her leg hence the not wanting to do it (walked over it and it caught the inside of her leg and she was lame for about 2 weeks) I HATE the coated wire ones which is why my large dog when he needed one got a overhead trolly someone ALWAYS got hurt with just the tie out either us, the kids or the dog.

    She would be getting a 1 inch leather collar from Ellas and a Biothane for now.

    This is the harness that I like for playtime on it: PETCO Pink Reflective Sport Harness at PETCO

    Shes a VERY calm dog doesnt run, chew or wreck havoc more then stealing food from the kids if she were a terrier or something it would be different but shes very calm and laidback.
     
  17. sassafras

    sassafras mushinois

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2011
    Messages:
    6,405
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    Minnesota
    If she is never unsupervised, I don't think it matters that much. Harnesses and collars have advantages and disadvantages, as do the various types of material.

    I put the dogs on a tie-out when I am camping with them. It's different than being at home, of course, but OTOH I have used them frequently with each of my dogs and feel very comfortable with them for the most part. I am always with them at the campsite except for very brief moments like changing clothes in the tent or whatnot.

    It depends a bit on which dog, but I usually use the cable style because I find it is stiff enough that it doesn't tangle/knot up as easily as other materials. Plus, I need something relatively hard to chew through because if they do, although I take spares I don't have the option of popping out to the store for a replacement whenever I like. I usually just attach to the collar. They actually rarely pull or slam against it, but keep in mind that while camping they are getting so much exercise and there is so much for them to see/watch that they are generally much more sedate than they would be at home.
     

Share This Page