This Pit Bull Site?

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  1. Chul3l3ies1126

    Chul3l3ies1126 New Member

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    http://www.jovanspittclan.com/

    This is a site of some Pit Bull breeders that live near my city. I found the site in the Bargin Book. Check it out and tell me if you think they are "good breeders" to me they look like they are truly bettering the breed. Also check out the links of other Pit Bull breeders sites. Do all Pit Bull breeders teach the dogs to attack an inatimate object viciously? There are some videos that the breeders took and posted on their site. Let me know what you think. They are really beautiful dogs. They look like the perfect example of the breed from back in time. Gladiator dogs.
     
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    'Two brand new litters ready to go. Great for Christmas presents.'

    That would be my cue to leave right there.
     
  3. Chul3l3ies1126

    Chul3l3ies1126 New Member

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    Yea when I saw that I was like oooookay. Not good to give a pup as a christmas present if someone isn't ready. Especially someone that doesnt know about the breed. One thing though, do the dogs look just beautiful to you? Or are they somewhat tooo muscular? I beleived that is the way they are supposed to be bred. Just a question...
     
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    I love pitties Chul and they look beautiful to me but I don't really know anything at all about the breed so couldn't really comment. I just followed your link out of curiosity (and procrastination. I AM supposed to be working) but I'd have serious doubts about any breeder that was willing to sell pups as Christmas present much less the breeders of a breed that has so many cards stacked against it already.
     
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    Some of the people from Game-dog's site can probably give you some excellent guidance on what to look for. They will also ask you some important and probing questions about why you want an APBT and how you are prepared to be a responsible and knowledgeable owner of one.
     
  6. LizzieCollie

    LizzieCollie Collie Crazy

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    Pit bulls arent supposed to be such massive dogs, and they are breeding them way too big. A 4 month pup is not supposed to be 60 pounds.

    The dogs are gorgeous looking, but the whole "Christmas Presents" and the page really gives me a bad feel. I dont see any achievements on the dogs page, just 'big head, ex weight, etc.'
     
  7. Chul3l3ies1126

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    That's kinda what I thought. But then someone said that they are supposed to be that big. From the breed standards, they are not supposed to be that massive, so i'm not sure what is going on. Another thing, can dogs be given steroids?
     
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    http://dogtopsites.com/pitbullheat/index.php?m=top&s=out&ID=1140413964.0795

    Okay, this got me... Is it good for any breeder to have over 10 males and females? Just wondering. It looks like each dog is tied up to a different part of the yard, it does not look good. All are hooked on to a pole or something with a big chain. But yea, if someone can tell me about the number of breeding dogs, that would be nice thanks.
     
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    yuck, more overdone razor's edge dogs.
     
  10. Chul3l3ies1126

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    Okay you all, sorry for all the site posts, but I'm bored and waiting to leave to work so I was looking at all the sites. I'm going to post one more. IS THIS RIGHT?! Look at the picture there, the female Pit Bull is tied and hooked to that contraption in order to force her to stand to breed. I believe that is just wrong and sick, or is it something breeders do?
    http://dogtopsites.com/pitbullheat/index.php?m=top&s=out&ID=1115153279.6076
     
  11. Jules

    Jules Magic, motherf@%$*#!

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    Some are 100+ lbs. That's just sad.
     
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    This guy on their "males page" This is our new stud "Azzurri Blu aka "Rhino"
    "Sire: Imperial's "Low-Low"
    Dam: Infamous Imperial's Knotty Dread
    "Rhino is pictured at 11 months and is showing a lot of potential. He's SHORT, thick & his head is 22 inches and growing."

    doesnt even look like a pit to me, it looks more like a bull terrier x pit cross to me.

    None of their dogs are close to the standard, they all look way too short & way too fat/bulky. Not to mention studies have shown that certain breeds with one or both blue eyes prone to deafness should not be bred because they will produce deaf dogs..

    Maybe I am nuts but THIS is what PB should look like ..

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    Then again I dont breed, I rescue. This fellow is actually my current foster.

    I also cant believe how much they are charging for those dogs! Come to my shelter and I can get you a nicer looking pit for $90. (all vetting included) That's where I got the handsome fellow I just posted and they were going to kill him very soon.

    IMO they are ugly and dont seem to fit the standard, again I am a rescuer not a breeder though.
     
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    LOL :D ..... quote: "Rhino" is now available for stud service. Service fee $2,500
     
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    Too many!
    I don't see the Bull Terrier/Pit cross you're talking about, Adopt.


    People are breeding Pits to their own liking these days, and they are one of the hardest breeds to find a breeder for, which is partly why I stay away from them now (along with the controversy and disrespect, among other things). Anyone selling a Pit over 90 pounds to me is selling ego boosters. Those dogs seem very front heavy to me. That doesn't necessarily mean they are mixed though. But personally, I can always do without a "Pit Bull" being called an APBT, and then having mastiff heads, complete with loose jowels and very wide heads.

    I don't like lowrider APBT's either. I have Staffies, that's lower than an APBT should be, and I have seen people passing dogs lower than my Staffies off as "pure APBT's". Just irks me to no end.
     
  15. dogsarebetter

    dogsarebetter EVIL SHELTIES!!!!

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    we would never ever use that thing for breeding.
    that looks horrible...
    and those are NOT pitts!
    that person is wrong for doing what they are doing
     
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    those are Not pit bulls,,,, the ADBA are looking into pulling the paperwork on all razor edge and gotti dogs due to the fact they are mixed breeds


    they are not bettering a breed by mix breeding,,
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    Too many!
    Just because they are stocky dogs does not mean they are mixes. Provided, many of those large dogs you see are, they aren't all mixed with something else.
     
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    I don't find them attractive AT ALL, all that fat and width. Blargh. Some people have posted some pics of lovely pits here that I have enjoyed very much and those are not it!

    As for the breeding stand, it's .. interesting (do not read that as condoning it!). I don't imagine she'd be held for very long - I say it's interesting because we hold mares to breed them - call it handbreeding, sometimes you have to hopple them so they don't kick the stallion.. not that dogs kick, obviously, but I would be interested to hear a dog breeder's thoughts on this.
     
  19. Bahamutt99

    Bahamutt99 Dafuq?

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    These dogs are supposed to be athletes, not cinder blocks. Any site that advertises their dog's head size is suspect. And blue eyes are a fault, not a selling point. Also beware anybody who's asking $1800 for a puppy from parents who aren't titled or health-tested. They're selling an image, not a well-bred dog.

    On the other hand, I wouldn't fault a breeder over how many dogs they keep. That may just mean they keep more out of a litter than just one pup. Its more about how many dogs they produce and sell to the public. However, if you see that along with the other warning signs, its a safe bet they aren't out there to better the breed.

    And that's a breeding stand. Some use it to breed a very hot or very squirmy bitch who wont hold still for the stud. I wont say whether its right or wrong.
     
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    Actually, if they have the name "Razor's Edge" in their pedigree, they ARE mixes. Not only was it rumored & wondered about for a long time, but founder of the line, Dave Wilson, just recently came out & admitted that other breeds such as the English Bulldog & Neo Mastiff (just to name 2) were INDEED outcrossed to in the "making" of his line. Thus, these dogs are all mutts. He is now referring to his line of dogs as American Bullys.

    As far as the website/breeder goes that the OP asked about, the first thing that stood out was the word "pitt". First off, a "pit" is a hole in the ground, not a dog. Second, it is only spelled with one "t".

    Considering their breeding stock is ONLY bred for looks (& most have crappy temperaments w/HA beginning to run rampant) & are mixed breed dogs to boot, I'd chalk them up to just another typical byb & peddler trying to avoid having to get a real job & breeding any creature with the proper genetalia. It appears they are in the business of breeding these dogs b/c it's "cool" & it keeps their wallets full.

    Bahamutt is right. The APBT is an athletic working breed, no an English Bulldog/Neo Mastiff cross with cropped ears. Compare a well bred APBT to their mutts & tell me what you think:

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    42lbs here
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    53lbs here

    IMO, they are the type of crap that is not only detrimental to the APBT as a breed, but are repsonsible for BSL & government legislation over our dogs. They don't care one bit that the APBT has a set in stone standard, nor do they care that peddling puppies is wrong & disguisting. I truly get sickened when I see "breeders" like this.
     

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