The Venting Thread

[DJEtzel]

Fine. Even if it's not a coincidence and some sick asshole stole the "plot" from a cartoon, who the hell cares? How does it matter? How does it change anything? Other than giving you fear-mongering conspiracy theorists something to carry on about, it doesn't MATTER, because we can't shelter everyone from every television program, movie or book, or any other form of media that might give someone who is already that deeply disturbed a "plan."

It doesn't matter who did it? Why are they "trying" to find out then? Who cares? Really? I care that it happened. Maybe you don't, but that was all I had said.

The point is, nobody knows as of yet who is responsible. But the idea that some clue or mysterious coincidence is found in a family guys episode is ridiculous.

At it's worst, somebody copied what they think they saw on the episode. People mimic what they think they saw on movies and tv all the time, it does NOT mean that the episodes/movies themselves are some mysterious foreshadowing of what is to come. it's a COINCIDENCE.
and more importantly.. WHO CARES?! what does it solve, what does it prove?! nothing.

It's like when you get a car and all of a sudden, you see that kind of car everywhere, because you are LOOKING AND NOTICING what you didn't before.

If we dig around in the media from the last few months, we would find patterns of all kinds of things.

I saw an episode where someone got into a car accident and a week later, so did I.Does that mean the episode caused it or was foreshadowing to the event?
Of course not.

I was at the race, I was there. I'm not saying I know what happened or who did it (obviously) but I am saying, that this was a tragedy. And to start pointing fingers at family guy episodes and spinning conspiracies about islam or the government is not doing ANYONE ANY GOOD.
The downward spiral of people pointing fingers and finding blame is toxic.
It doesn't need any help.

I just wish people would let the police and bomb squads do their jobs and focus on helping eachother rather than pointing fingers and trying to find some conspiracy in it all.

and it is fear mongering. I was scared, I am scared, people are very scared. This happened on a street I walk down everyday, it happened 30 feet from where I was standing in a safe city during a public event.

I'm not stopping anyone from doing their jobs. You may think my opinions are ridiculous, but there are just as many people thinking your opinions and all of the news reports are just as ridiculous. Just because I think someone did it, I'm fear mongering? I'm not doing anything worse than FOX or Yahoo. And all I had said was that it made me sick to my stomach.

I realize you were there and it was extremely traumatic and you won't believe me when I tell you how sad that makes me, but that has nothing to do with other people caring about it, or who may or may not have done it.

Yes, it is absolutely disgusting and pathetic to be posting videos and being absolutely apathetic towards people that are currently living this tragedy. I mean, look at how you treated Fran if you think you aren't. SHE's living this in her own town. On her own goddamn street.

Of course, the government made that Family Guy episode. Of course.


No, you're not afraid of the government at all. :rofl1:

People have been posting links, videos, pictures, since it happened. You just don't like my source or my thought behind it. It has nothing to do with fear mongering. I'm just as upset about the attack as anyone else is, and that was the basis for my post that started this, so I don't know how you can say that I'm apathetic? How did I treat Fran? How am I supposed to treat Fran? She is trying to argue that I'm wrong because she lives there... that... doesn't make any sense.

 

[AdrianneIsabel]

That's nice, I for one AM afraid. My home has never in my life felt unsafe until yesterday. Give the conspiracies a rest while we piece our community back together.

Such a powerful message.

PS, I'm pretty sure Seth predicted every child molester and rapist, ever.

It's impressive what we trying together when our brains don't follow the normal path of logic.

 

[DJEtzel]

That's nice, I for one AM afraid. My home has never in my life felt unsafe until yesterday. Give the conspiracies a rest while we piece our community back together.

How are conspiracies any different than all of the speculation the news is producing? They're allowed to guess and wonder and talk about it, but I'M not?

 

[JessLough]

People have been posting links, videos, pictures, since it happened. You just don't like my source or my thought behind it. It has nothing to do with fear mongering. I'm just as upset about the attack as anyone else is, and that was the basis for my post that started this, so I don't know how you can say that I'm apathetic? How did I treat Fran? How am I supposed to treat Fran? She is trying to argue that I'm wrong because she lives there... that... doesn't make any sense.

but she's NOT. She said something like "I live here. The streets are covered in blood. Enough". As in stfu with the accusations already, there are PEOPLE here who are dealing with it, maybe instead of trying to "figure out who did it", you could do something helpful. Like helping the victims. Asking the victims we have on the forums if there is anything you can do for them. Not once did she say "I live here so I know better". Not once. She's dealing with a level of grief that you could never understand because you're not living right in the middle of it all.


Any links I have seen on here, have been concrete. Have been articles about the event. Have been nothing but telling what happened. Haven't been a **** link to 2 parts of a CARTOON that somebody edited together and being like "LOOK GUYS IT'S THE GOVERNMENT, I'VE FIGURED IT ALL OUT".

ETA: I've seen no speculation on the news. I've seen "this is what happened, this is what's going on, this is what we've found". Nothing like what you're posting, nothing with links to stupid cartoons as their proof, surely.

 

[sassafras]

At this point, quite frankly ANY opinion is pretty ridiculous. It's been one day and nobody knows anything about anything yet.

And how you should treat Fran and DenoLo is with the consideration of not using the tragedy they are living to push your conspiracy theories.

 

[AdrianneIsabel]

No, you should have more tact, more class, more empathy to individuals still reeling than a big name, emotionless, ratings craving network.

You should be human.

 

[DJEtzel]

but she's NOT. She said something like "I live here. The streets are covered in blood. Enough". As in stfu with the accusations already, there are PEOPLE here who are dealing with it, maybe instead of trying to "figure out who did it", you could do something helpful. Like helping the victims. Asking the victims we have on the forums if there is anything you can do for them. Not once did she say "I live here so I know better". Not once. She's dealing with a level of grief that you could never understand because you're not living right in the middle of it all.


Any links I have seen on here, have been concrete. Have been articles about the event. Have been nothing but telling what happened. Haven't been a **** link to 2 parts of a CARTOON that somebody edited together and being like "LOOK GUYS IT'S THE GOVERNMENT, I'VE FIGURED IT ALL OUT".

Nothing is concrete at this point. That is a joke. Do you know how many times the story changes in the hours, days, weeks after an incident like this? Either all of it should be talked about or none of it, imo. Not just these opinions and not those.

I didn't even KNOW we had victims on the forum until now. I cannot be all knowing and help someone that I simply don't know.

At this point, quite frankly ANY opinion is pretty ridiculous. It's been one day and nobody knows anything about anything yet.

And how you should treat Fran and DenoLo is with the consideration of not using the tragedy they are living to push your conspiracy theories.

I am not trying to use a tradgedy to push anything. I didn't push, everyone else pulled. Again, I made one comment about how disgusted I was about it happening with a video to my own beliefs about it, just as others post Fox articles, etc. None of it is for sure in either case, it just SUCKS.

 

[SevenSins]

It doesn't matter who did it? Why are they "trying" to find out then? Who cares? Really? I care that it happened. Maybe you don't, but that was all I had said.

OF COURSE it matters who did it, are you intentionally trying to be stupid? What does that have to do with what I said?

 

[DJEtzel]

OF COURSE it matters who did it, are you intentionally trying to be stupid? What does that have to do with what I said?

You specifically said it doesn't matter. Are YOU trying to be stupid?

 

[Julee]

No, you should have more tact, more class, more empathy to individuals still reeling than a big name, emotionless, ratings craving network.

You should be human.

THIS forever.

 

[JessLough]

Nothing is concrete at this point. That is a joke. Do you know how many times the story changes in the hours, days, weeks after an incident like this? Either all of it should be talked about or none of it, imo. Not just these opinions and not those.

I didn't even KNOW we had victims on the forum until now. I cannot be all knowing and help someone that I simply don't know.



I am not trying to use a tradgedy to push anything. I didn't push, everyone else pulled. Again, I made one comment about how disgusted I was about it happening with a video to my own beliefs about it, just as others post Fox articles, etc. None of it is for sure in either case, it just SUCKS.

Really? They know how many explosions there were thus far, that's pretty concrete. They know the minimum number of people who were injured. That's pretty concrete. That's basically all I've seen as far as news goes. I haven't seen any Fox news links, but then again, I haven't clicked them all, since I missed some while at work. (Plus, I mean, who watches Fox news for anything except entertainment?)


It has been posted many, many times that Fran lives in that area in this thread. She said in the post you got all up in arms about that SHE'S LIVING IT. Yet you continued to be rude to her, instead of showing even a tiny amount of sympathy for her.

 

[SevenSins]

You specifically said it doesn't matter. Are YOU trying to be stupid?

Whether whoever did this was mimicking a cartoon DOES NOT matter. That has absolutely NOTHING to do with the importance of finding out WHO did it. Holy crap, you're really reaching.

 

[Saeleofu]

And how you should treat Fran and DenoLo is with the consideration of not using the tragedy they are living to push your conspiracy theories.

This. :hail: :hail: :hail:

 

[JessLough]

ANYWAY, my vent for today is that everybody is now up in arms about my taking Renegade to the vet tomorrow for a needle.

Yes, last time he had a needle he almost died. I understand that. HE'S MY FERRET. Regardless, I need to get him this shot to try and get the cancer under control. He needs this to stop being aggressive. He's biting people now, that's not acceptable.

 

[DJEtzel]

Really? They know how many explosions there were thus far, that's pretty concrete. They know the minimum number of people who were injured. That's pretty concrete. That's basically all I've seen as far as news goes. I haven't seen any Fox news links, but then again, I haven't clicked them all, since I missed some while at work. (Plus, I mean, who watches Fox news for anything except entertainment?)

It has been posted many, many times that Fran lives in that area in this thread. She said in the post you got all up in arms about that SHE'S LIVING IT. Yet you continued to be rude to her, instead of showing even a tiny amount of sympathy for her.

"It was a drill" "It wasn't a drill" "We were told it was a drill" "Dozens dead" "two dead" this and that. These were all reports I heard yesterday. ALL different.

I was not being rude to Fran whatsoever. She was debating something with me and I was letting her know my side to something. I did not just message or quote her and start ranting at her. I do not read all of the posts here to know that she was there prior to this. I knew she lived in boston, but nothing else. And, I thought it was obvious since I was venting about what a terrible situation it was, that I cared and felt sympathy towards all the people there. And I do. But I also about justice for whoever did it. Because I don't want it to happen again.

eta; I mean, do you really think that I'm such a fear mongering, crazy, afraid conspiracy theorist for fun? I try to talk about it and share my ideas of thinking, because it is not something that can ever be proven if the government is behind it, but it is something that can continue hurting and killing us and I CARE about humanity enough to try to get enough people realizing what I *think* I realize, so that perhaps we can put a stop to it. I don't want it to happen, and I'm looking for ways to stop it and inform the world.

 

[AdrianneIsabel]

Your vent, admission or not, involved sensationalized claims which at this time only serve to fuel hatred. To be human is to offer support, offer condolences, and be the "light in the darkness". Your vent was dark, grasping, and fear mongering (yes, it was created to instill fear that this was infact a predictable event which we sent our loved ones into carelessly). Take some time, look at what good that does, who does it help?

Try another angle while we're still reeling, especially those who live there and those who've friends and family in attendance, there will always be time (and better places) for conspiracy theories, hell we're still arguing over JFK and the moon.

 

[Greenmagick]

I started a thread for the marathon bombing. Thought it would be more appropriate for those who want to vent and not read about it.

 

[sassafras]

"It was a drill" "It wasn't a drill" "We were told it was a drill" "Dozens dead" "two dead" this and that. These were all reports I heard yesterday. ALL different.

Are you kidding me? The reports are all different because of chaos and rumors and speculation and everyone trying to get the scoop.

Have you ever been through something that chaotic personally? I have, when the 35W bridge collapsed just several miles away from my house and I didn't know where some of my loved ones were. You barely know what's going on, what you're seeing and experiencing yourself, let alone trying to make sense of whether the things other people are saying "they heard" or "they think" are true. And everyone's completely unsubstantiated and speculative "opinions" at this point just contribute to chaos and rumors down the road as people pick up on "I heard it was the muslims, I heard it was the North Koreans, I heard it was the Tea Party, I heard it was the government" and just rub salt into the raw wounds of people who are dealing with grief and helplessness RIGHT NOW.

That's my vent for the venting thread. So just stop talking, for chrissake. You're part of the problem right now.

 

[AdrianneIsabel]

^^ I share that vent.

Additionally I am starving and have no time to duck out for another hour. Whomp.

 

[Beanie]

"It was a drill" "It wasn't a drill" "We were told it was a drill" "Dozens dead" "two dead" this and that. These were all reports I heard yesterday. ALL different.

That's because it was CHAOS, and in chaotic events, misinformation flies. If you read articles on this, how many quotes are from people who are unnamed because they are not authorized to speak on the subject? I read one this morning that had at least two. (As a media person I have always HATED that - if you are not authorized to speak on the subject, you are quite possibly missing something, so shut up.)


There is no evidence to point to anybody having used the cartoon as "inspiration," no evidence that anybody involved with Family Guy did this, no evidence that "the government" did this. You aren't stopping anybody from doing their jobs, no, but it is a distraction and no better than what you are complaining about as far as misdirection, misinformation, and a lack of anything concrete.

You can wonder why and you can wonder who. But it is a level of arrogance involved if you think you will actually be able to determine the answer to "who" sitting on the internet thousands of miles away.