You have to understand that the people I'm talking about only train agility and they train agility HARD. So yes, they'd be sitting around twiddling their thumbs because even though they have fabulous relationships with their dogs, they don't do a lot of other activities. Patricia herself told me this isnt' a dog you can work and work and work without breaks and doing other things. Which would suit me just fine actually and not the reason I decided against them. My dog's have very active lives with a lot of variety and every activity is built around improving our relationships. Silvia Trkman amazing, but I know I don't train exactly like her so I can't expect my dogs to turn out like hers.