Omigaw... it wouldn't matter WHAT I did to contain the kitchen trash with Hunter. Even when I stored his food in the garage and he'd be out with Eli during the day, he found a way to get into the "dog proof" containers. Now he's an inside dog -- because he'll dig under the fence and get out during the day if I'm not here. The kitchen trash can stays in the garage. His dogfood is in the garage, as well. He just spent a week at Grammy's... she had food all over her counter and a box of donuts on the table. I said "Do you leave that out when he's here?" She said "YEP!" So, guess what... he's learned!!!