Tape Worm

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  1. MafiaPrincess

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    I've never had a dog with worms before. Need to go to the vet during my break between class and work.

    I was wondering how long after dosing will worms start to die off and quit crawling out of Cider's rectum?

    I barely slept last night. The thought of worms wiggling out of her to go who knows where really upset me..
     
  2. Dekka

    Dekka Just try me..

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    I have always gotten a pill (thats cheap) from the vet, seems to work in a couple of days. Tape worm segments are icky!
     
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    should begin having an effect almost immediately, but will take a few days for it to completely clear. Just a heads up though, be ready for there to be a lot of worms and worm segments in her poop while it is clearing up though, and be ready for some really, really smelly poops.
     
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    When I had to treat tape worm the segments seemed to stop very quickly(I'd say within a about 4 hours or so of first treatment).

    .... and I'm not sure about canadian laws, but here you can get panacur over the counter.... it saves the $50 exam fee since you already know exactly what is wrong...

    Panacur C: Wormer for Dogs - 1800PetMeds

    ^^^ is what I use, but if I were you I would just go to a local pet supply place and pick up some wormer...
     
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    Tapeworms are usually associated with fleas, make sure your dog is treated for any flea problems to ensure it doesn't happen again.
     
  6. JessLough

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    I believe panacur you can get over the counter.. but are you absolutely positive it is tape worm? I would be tempted to go to the vet anyways
     
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    ^^^ agree !
     
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    Dekka Just try me..

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    Tape is oh so easy to diagnose. Every couple of years we seem to get it (but never see fleas) I go to my vet they give me a 6 dollar pill and they go away, till the next few years.
     
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    Tape worms are very easy to identify once pieces are coming out....

    and panacur is a broad spectrum wormer, and it's one of the safest ones to give... which is why pretty much all the vets(at least in my area) use it. It comes in mulitple forms(liquid, powder, pill) but it's still the same stuff.
     
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    She had all of one flea which is why I thought they were rounds last night. Someone shared a youtube video of a tape segment dancing around. Oh these are definitely tapes..

    We haven't had a flea issue in years. Though she apparently managed to ingest one.

    Vet wouldn't diagnose my piece of worm in a jar without the dog. Can't take the dog to school. So guess I'm self treating as I don't have time off till friday and I can't put up with worm all over the house.

    I'm horrified. I REALLY hope the segments come out dead from here on out. Yuck.
     
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    Ewww, icky icky!

    I agree with the Panacur route. It's pretty much what your vet was going give anyway, unless for some reason they felt Drontal was a better choice, so you'll be saving yourself a lot of money. It covers most of the common worm varieties anyway.
     
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    They are very icky... My first exposure to one was when a cat we had shed one on my arm... ew ew ew and more ew!

    Luckily Dekka has never had them, so I haven't had to worry about them ever having been in my bed.
     
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    My first experience to worms.. on my thigh in my bed...........

    Thought it was an eye gooby.. I barely slept even after cleaning up my room, and her bum when I realized when she sleeps she can shed them..

    I haven't seen many today but there was a lot last night. Ewwwwww
     
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    Yah guys.. I know how easy tapes are to diagnose, most animals we have come in have tapes ;)

    yah Maf probably would not diagnose because he wants to make sure that nothing else was going on, and wanted to see how severe the case was. Self-treat with Panacur, should be just fine! :)
     
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    Apparently there are a few tape worm species that dogs (maybe cats) can get; from this website Panacur


    BRAND NAME: PANACUR

    AVAILABLE IN
    ORAL SUSPENSION
    AND GRANULES

    BACKGROUND

    The care of animals has always included the management of internal parasites. As technology has progressed, the medications developed have become more and more broad in the spectrum of parasites they can eradicate. Fenbendazole is a member of the benzimidizole group of anti-parasite medications which makes it a relatively broad spectrum product.

    HOW THIS MEDICATION IS USED

    Fenbendazole (often abbreviated “FBZ”) is used in both large and small animals. In dogs, it is useful against roundworms, hookworms, and the more difficult to treat whipworms. It is effective against the Taenia species of tapeworm but not against the Common tapeworm, Dipylidium caninum. It is also effective against giardia (an intestinal protozoan which is contagious to both humans and pets) as well as several species of lungworm and even some flukes.

    Fenbendazole is rarely required for feline use but can certainly be used safely in the cat. Fenbendazole is not approved by the FDA for use in the cat, however.

    However; click on their site and there is more about praziquantel; HOW DO WE GET RID OF THEM?

    Tapeworms are killed by different medications (Our hospital uses one called “DRONCIT” (brand name of “ Praziquantel”) which is administered by injection or tablet. The tapeworm is killed and digested with the pet’s food. It is not passed in the stool later.
     
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    Ehhh Panacur isn't really the answer. It kills Taenia but not Dipylidium. Cestex kills both.
     
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    I found a ten inch + tapeworm segment in the litter box when I collecting a stool sample for my new cat...

    good thing he had a vet visit that day.
     
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    Dear god Crio.. even with a vet appointment I might cry over the nasty..

    24 hours post worming and they aren't escaping on their own. Actually after worming I had my family monitor her and they never saw another one.. They are coming out in her poop, but not the load I expected.. but who knows how many more there are to come.

    Smudge is expelling a few dead ones now too..

    And they both seem to by hyped up versions of themselves today. Cider was a mopey mess yesterday.. but seeing how high she is today I wonder if she's been off for a while and I didn't realize it. Even Smudge has more energy now making me think that this worm load has been a while coming and it isn't a 3 weeks ago till now issue.
     
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    You may not be able to buy Panacur over the counter in most Canadian provinces, but you can buy fenbenzadole in a product called Safeguard. Its a horse dewormer and purchased at an ag supply shop (like UFA or Peavy Mart in Alberta) for about $14 per tube. I used to breed pedigreed cats and deworming every cat and dog here twice per year, plus the kittens before they went to forever homes, was cost prohibitive unless I did it myself.

    Fenbendazole is dosed at 23 mg/lb (50 mg/kg) once daily for 5 days for Giardia (yellow or green diarrhea) and once daily for 3 days for roundworms (repeat in 2-3 weeks for roundworms). The Taenia species of tapeworms can also be treated. However, the medication is ineffective against Dipylidium caninum, the common tapeworm.

    Panacur/Fenbenzadole is considered safe in pregnant and lactating queens and kittens/puppies.

    DOSING
    pet weight dose amount of paste

    10.0 lb 230 mg 2.3 ml
    10.5 lb 242 mg 2.4 ml
    11.0 lb 253 mg 2.5 ml
    11.5 lb 265 mg 2.6 ml
    12.0 lb 276 mg 2.8 ml
    12.5 lb 288 mg 2.9 ml
    13.0 lb 299 mg 3.0 ml
    13.5 lb 311 mg 3.1 ml
    14.0 lb 322 mg 3.2 ml
    14.5 lb 334 mg 3.3 ml
    15.0 lb 345 mg 3.5 ml
    15.5 lb 357 mg 3.6 ml
    16.0 lb 368 mg 3.7 ml
    16.5 lb 380 mg 3.8 ml
    17.0 lb 391 mg 3.9 ml
    17.5 lb 403 mg 4.0 ml
    18.0 lb 414 mg 4.1 ml
    18.5 lb 426 mg 4.3 ml
    19.0 lb 437 mg 4.4 ml
    19.5 lb 449 mg 4.5 ml
    20.0 lb 460 mg 4.6 ml

    Fenbendazole is a very safe drug. Adverse reactions and toxicities are unlikely -
    see:
    http://www.peteducation.com/pharmacy/fenbendazole.htm
    Types of Parasites Controlled by Fenbendazole | eHow.com
     

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