Speaking of dog parks....

Discussion in 'Dogs - General Dog Chat' started by Scooter, Nov 11, 2009.

  1. milos_mommy

    milos_mommy Active Member

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    not reading the whole thread...

    No. It's the kid's parents fault. I don't have a problem with kids in dog parks, but if the kid is running, it should expect to be knocked over. That's why we have dog parks, so that dogs can run and jump on other running, jumping dogs. A jumping running child sounds like tons of fun...maybe all dog parks should have a few ;)
     
  2. Linds

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    I know, those make me cringe honestly. That's why when people talk about the how terrible dog parks are I always think they must be picturing one of those itty bitty ones with a few trees and picnic benches and not some of the nice huge ones like I go to.

    I also think that when you are in those little dog parks people aren't moving around. They're staying in one place and things tend to escalate. At mine everyone is moving around, hiking and going forward which helps a lot I think

    That being said I did bring Kaylee to this tiny little fenced in area during a Dog Day at a park. It was smaller than my back yard with a ton of dogs and little kiddy pools. But Kaylee is my stone cold bomb proof will not fight dog. The worst she did that day was pee in the kiddy pool, then slip on it's floor, hit her head on the side of it then fall out and run right through the fence :rolleyes:
     
  3. smkie

    smkie pointer/labrador/terrier Staff Member

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    Poor baby!!! THat sounds like no fun at all. DOne a few of those slip on concrete crack body part moves too.:(

    SIze is everything. IF i want my dogs to play in an acre or so I will set up a play date and meet at someone's house. THere just hast to be a body of water. Mine love to run as hard as they can and when they hit the water you almost see steam rise. I have been on the dog beach (which is also the most concentrated space and the only area where i have seen a few arguements) when as many as 30 dogs are present. THis is the space too where dogs will gaurd a favorite toy. Much better to use community balls or sticks. That is when newbies tend to make more problems because they don't know things like that. I know who has treats and who doesn't because one of Mary's more favorite pass times is pocket surfing. I don't bring any food to the park at all. Seen children every weekend, strollers and pack carried babies. Never saw a child act inappropriately around the dogs. Number one problem is usually a owner that is talking to someone else or reading a book. Doing anything but monitoring their dog. Zoom will remember Silver's mom..good grief was SIlver ever trying and the woman oblivious.
     
  4. Romy

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    holy crap! If that had been me, I would have called 911 and let them know some lady just abandoned her toddler at the dog park with total strangers. We had to start doing that when people dropped off their kids at the community art studio I worked at to let them run amok, despite giant signs on the door that said "No children under 15 without parental supervision!"

    After getting reamed by some pissed off cops, those people learned very quickly you don't EVER leave your kids in someone elses care without their consent. What are people thinking?!?
     
  5. ihartgonzo

    ihartgonzo and Fozzie B!

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    I know... seriously! She went down a hill out of sight, too. I was shocked. I wanted to be like, "you're lucky we aren't child molestors/abducters, lady!" D:

    Well. The dog is on-leash. The dog isn't playing with another dog, doing zoomies at full speed. It's fairly easy to stop a dog from jumping on a child when you're walking with them on-leash. Not so easy to stop a dog from having fun with other dogs to avoid an out of control child.

    At Agility class with Fozzie, some one brought their kid in and she was running around being annoying. Fozzie was simply running to me (I had him in a wait for the start), the child ran across his path, he ran AROUND her and to me and in the process tripped her only because she was running straight in front of him. She was crying profusely and acting like she was dying. The Mom acted all huffy, and I actually complained to the trainer about it, because I would have been PEEVED if that kid had fallen on my short little dog! D; Even dogs who are otherwise well-mannered and gentle (which he definitely is) can accidentally trip/run into a child that's racing around.
     
  6. JoeLacy

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    The dog park is not a place for children to be off leash.
     
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    Small kids do not belong in dog parks. I live in the city. I do not have a fenced in yard, nor do my dog owning friends. Other fenced in places (tennis courts etc) are not accessable to my dogs, but they both need a chance to run off leash. Where else am I supposed to take them? The dog park is designed for them to run and play, and I plan to use it.
    They both have a good, but not 100% recall. I watch them constantly, and as soon as we see a child, we leave. Argon doesn't really care for kids, especially when they are running and screaming, and I don't know about Neon. It bothers me that my dogs have to leave their park because of a child who does not belong there in the first place. There is a childrens park less than a quarter mile up the road that allows leashed dogs. Families either need to take thier dogs there, or take the kids and dogs at seperate times.
    I also had an adult friend who ended up with a broken wrist after being hit by a running dane at the park. It was an accident, and the owner was mortified, but a small child could have been much more seriously injured. That alone would be enough to convince me that dog parks are for dogs, not littke kids.
     
  8. Doberluv

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    It must be hard for mothers with small kids and their dog to be able to go to the dog park without their kids. I mean, their dog needs to get out too and they can't have a baby sitter every day. So, I can see the dilema. However, they NEED to train their kids or keep them physically restrained so they don't entice prey drive in dogs or get hurt by being run into. They also need to have their dogs relatively well trained and behaved because dividing your attention between the two is difficult. If they can wait until their husband comes home or some other person to help them out, then they could go to the park without their kids. But if they can not control their kids and their dogs, they should not go to the dog park. In cities, there are usually playgrounds and parks for kids and if dogs are allowed on leashes, the mother could take the kid to the kid park first, get the kid fairly exhausted, then go to the dog park. LOL.
     
  9. sillysally

    sillysally Obey the Toad.

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    But see, not to sound insensitive, but as a dog park user it really isn't my problem that they couldn't find a babysitter. However, bringing their kid into the park MAKES it my problem, and that's what I find irritating. The dog isn't going to die if it can't go to the dog park every day--many can't go at all. Dogs can be very rough, fast, etc when they play and I find it unnerving when small children are present under those circumstances.
     
  10. Doberluv

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    Well, I agree with you 100%. (as you could probably tell from my previous posts) I'm just saying.....For a mom whose dog needs to be able to run and can't run anywhere else, who feels compelled to take it to the dog park...is trying to be a good dog Mom, but has a kid....she has a dilema. I don't condone misbehavior or preventing other dogs and their owners from enjoying the park due to rotten kids spoiling it....not at all. Those kids that run around, screaming and bothering all the dogs should instead be leashed to a fixture at the park...the drinking fountain, the park bench, the chain link fence, the car bumper or trailer hitch....I don't care. Rfffff. I'm just saying I understand that there must be a dilema in some peoples' minds. See what I'm sayin'? LOL.
     
  11. FoxyWench

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    i absolutly see the dilema, but those mothers need to literally leash (or stroller) their kids at the dog park...
    if its that much of an issue, drop the dog off for an hour at doggy day care once a week...

    i think a child properly secured and supervsed by its parent can be ok...but by secured and supervised i mean the child is not runnign round with the dogs, stays close to mommy (within arms reach) ect. if that means putting your child on a leash...I was a leash child (baby harness) and loved having that bit of independance.
     
  12. sillysally

    sillysally Obey the Toad.

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    I do see what you are saying. But see having a small child in the park regardless of that child's behavior is unacceptable to me. The child does not have to be doing anything inappropriate to be injured in an environment filled with large high energy, amped up dogs--they just have to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Jack ADORES kids and will let them get away with murder without a hard word to them, but he could injure a small child with a well placed tail thwap--heck, he can injure ME with a well placed tail thwap--lol.

    Again, I do get what you are saying but to me it's just not an inconvenience to users of the DP, but a potential liability.
     
  13. Linds

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    Honestly, I've seen worse results with strollers at my dog park than most anything else
     
  14. Doberluv

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    I see your point....if the mother can't protect her child...which I'm sure, from reading all these posts, they often don't. It is indeed not a good place for children.
     
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    Dober, I totally see your point.

    I posted earlier about finding an "unofficial" local DP last week. When I was there, the only other dog there for a while was a 2 yr old boxer. Her "mom" was there with a 10 wk old baby (in a Bjorn). Thankfully, it was no big deal because there weren't more than 4 dogs at any one time, and all were very, very easy going dogs. Anyway, I'm sure she really enjoys having the DP for her wild and crazy young dog! It must be hard to deal with an infant and an adolescent boxer.

    I kept Bailey away from the woman, and I honestly don't think he noticed the baby -- there were holes to dig and balls to chase. ;) The woman did say that her dog was protective of the baby (just snarky -- this was a super submissive dog), so I can see the potential for an issue if it were a different situation (or if her dog got in a fight, for example, because she couldn't intervene with the baby attached to her). Fortunately, as I said, it wasn't that kind of environment.

    I agree, too, that at the end of the day, kiddos should be kept safe and dogs should be allowed to be dogs in dog parks.
     
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  17. smkie

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    Nah..they would be filled with dogs like Mary, Vic, Pepper, Sawyer, and Higgs. THere are more dogs like that at our park then exuberant out of control youngsters. In general the people that come there have the kind of dogs that should be there. I have seen a problem bully dog shove each dog down the path trying to get a rise out of them. Every single owner and dog he encountered shrugged and walked around him. It was pretty dang amazing.
    Maybe I just have the magic dog park. If so, lucky me.
     

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