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The other thread struck a huge chord with me because I see, far too often, responsible owners whose pit bulls are seized by animal control officers and put down because they are "too thin" (or at least that's the excuse; I think it's often the anti-pit bull prejudice at work). I completely understand being concerned about animal welfare, but when people close their minds and just assume a dog is abused or neglected because it is "thin," tragedies can happen! The difference between too thin and good condition is not nearly as easy to see in dogs as it is in humans. And many of us are so used to looking at overweight pets these days rather than conditioned, athletic dogs.
 
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Impressive! Canidae is one of my favorites for my dogs! >^_^<
Canidae only worked out well for 2, maybe 3 of my 8 dogs, so I wouldn't really rate it very high with my dogs, but it is definitely a lot more of a premium feed than commercial feed (basically poison).

off-topic but..

Cheetah, are you on another dog forum? your doggies look familler (sp?)
Just a request, but please stay on topic and use private messages or email to chit-chat, or on another thread.
 
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"Monster" chain is grossly overstated. I believe it's probably the standard 1/4" link, which is featherweight to such powerful animals. It's not uncommon for one to break something smaller -and occasionally may even break the quarter-inch- which is something you don't want to happen when you have dogs that don't always get along in the same proximity.
As far as chain dogs not having good lives, please don't believe everything you hear. A dog can be neglected in the house just as easily as it can on the chain. Some people treat their animals like garbage regardless of how they are contained, whereas those of us who love, value, and respect our dogs will generally put them first, above all else. To some of us, these dogs are nothing less than a way of life.


This girl is kept on a chain simply because she doesn't get along with all our other dogs, some of which are also on chains. It doesn't mean she's loved any less than our house dogs, nor any of the other dogs on our yard. And we are full to bursting of love for our dogs:). Being on a chain doesn't make her mean, or crazy, or aggressive, or paranoid, contrary to what some like to believe. And although she doesn't get along with every dog she may encounter, there are plenty she does.


Anyway, there seems to be a crusade to rid the world of "pitbulls" lately, and it makes many of us APBT lovers a little nervous. It just breaks my heart when some uneducated and inexperienced group of animal control officers takes away some family's beloved dog simply because they cannot tell the difference between a skinny starved dog and one that's had blood, sweat, and tears poured into it to keep it conditioned and healthy.
Thank you for allowing me to share.
 

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Canidae only worked out well for 2, maybe 3 of my 8 dogs, so I wouldn't really rate it very high with my dogs, but it is definitely a lot more of a premium feed than commercial feed (basically poison).
As I've said before, every dog is different, even in reaction to the premium foods, and I have even heard of dogs doing horribly on Innova which is supposed to be the best food out there lol...

And, yes, I am on several other forums. </OT>

Anyway, there seems to be a crusade to rid the world of "pitbulls" lately, and it makes many of us APBT lovers a little nervous. It just breaks my heart when some uneducated and inexperienced group of animal control officers take away some family's beloved dog simply because they cannot tell the difference between a skinny starved dog and one that's had blood, sweat, and tears poured into it to keep it conditioned and healthy.
Thank you for allowing me to share.
I know how that is, even not being a pitty owner myself... I live near Denver, where there is a breed ban... >-.-< In order to own one in the future, I won't have access to all the less expensive housing that is more common in Denver than any of the surrounding cities, where it is considerably more expensive. Either way, I refuse to live there.
 
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Many of us , though we dont own Pits, love the breed. I think the verdict was my Verde likely has some Pit in her, allthough she is a stray and a mutt so who knows.
 

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Lol, you seem to be extremely impatient, I'll tell you how she become so "muscled", but first... "monster chain"? Lol, that is funny... but anyway, the way she became so "muscled" is being raised for about 14 months (so far) in the house, being fed extreme premium dog food, and is from solid genetics (something you may want to research.
I am sorry, but I don't believe that muscle can be obtained on any animal just living in the house for 14 months, being fed premium dog food, and genetics. Maybe if you went into detail of "weight pulling", "treadmill running", supplements etc.
But not a house dog.
Are you sure you didn't leave something out?
 
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As I've said before, every dog is different, even in reaction to the premium foods, and I have even heard of dogs doing horribly on Innova which is supposed to be the best food out there lol...

And, yes, I am on several other forums.
You may have said that before, but since you have not mentioned anything about it in the 2 threads (including this one) that are at hand, and I've only looked at the 2, I responded to what you said... but I agree that each dog is different and do differently per dog.

I am sorry, but I don't believe that muscle can be obtained on any animal just living in the house for 14 months, being fed premium dog food, and genetics. Maybe if you went into detail of "weight pulling", "treadmill running", supplements etc.
But not a house dog.
Are you sure you didn't leave something out?
I made the post, and that is how it was, is, and will be, at least for now, and I don't agree with many of the supplements other than fresh wild salmon oil or kelp, and I don't really considered those supplements, although I'm feeding neither at this time.

And, yes... I'm sure I didn't leave something out, if I did, it would have been edited by now.

I think I'm entitled to ask a simple question...its not like its that distractive :confused:
You are technically "entitled" to do whatever you wish, as long as it conforms to the people who run this site's rules, or whatever. It was simply a request, as I stated. Please do not get offended.
 

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I made the post, and that is how it was, is, and will be, at least for now, and I don't agree with many of the supplements other than fresh wild salmon oil or kelp, and I don't really considered those supplements, although I'm feeding neither at this time.

And, yes... I'm sure I didn't leave something out, if I did, it would have been edited by now.
Hmmmm. So you are saying that dog in the picture gets virtually no excercise? and just lives in the house? Not on that chain?
 
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Hmmmm. So you are saying that dog in the picture gets virtually no excercise? and just lives in the house? Not on that chain?
Basically, yes... "she" is actually on the chain maybe once a week on average... she goes out on the chain when it isn't too hot, too cold, too wet, or too dry, and since that doesn't happen very often here, she doesn't go on the chain much. I don't like taking pictures of my dogs in the house, because they are much more photogenic outside.

Although that doesn't have anything to do with the subject or thread at hand, since the "chain" seems to be more of an issue than the dog, I figured I would go ahead and respond to it.
 

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This is the original pic that started the other post and people were commenting on.



I don't know if he belongs to either of those replying to these threads, but if so, do you have any other pics of him that you could share? I'd be curious to see if it's just camera angles that make him look so thin. Your girl doesn't look too thin to me, but personally (which is all we can go on) the boy is thinner than I would like if he were mine. But again, when I had Pits, they were built more like the average Am Staff. :cool:
 
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Basically, yes... "she" is actually on the chain maybe once a week on average... she goes out on the chain when it isn't too hot, too cold, too wet, or too dry, and since that doesn't happen very often here, she doesn't go on the chain much. I don't like taking pictures of my dogs in the house, because they are much more photogenic outside.

Although that doesn't have anything to do with the subject or thread at hand, since the "chain" seems to be more of an issue than the dog, I figured I would go ahead and respond to it.
So the dietary asspect is something that must be closely watched?

*edit*

I might have missed how much and what kind of exercise she gets.
 
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So the dietary asspect is something that must be closely watched?
Although I'm really not sure what you're getting at by asking that question, but yes, any "healthy" dog's health has a lot to do with the "dietary asspect."
 
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This is the original pic that started the other post and people were commenting on.



I don't know if he belongs to either of those replying to these threads, but if so, do you have any other pics of him that you could share? I'd be curious to see if it's just camera angles that make him look so thin. Your girl doesn't look too thin to me, but personally (which is all we can go on) the boy is thinner than I would like if he were mine. But again, when I had Pits, they were built more like the average Am Staff. :cool:
No, that dog doesn't belong to anyone who has commented in this or the original thread. But, yes, I have different pictures of the dog, but only one other (which is not really important to be shared here) when he was in perfect physical and mental condition. Although he may look thin, skinny, starved, or whatever the case may be, that dog, in that picture is in optimal shape and condition. In that picture, he was eating no less than 7-8 cups of premium dog food per day rather than 3-4 cups if he was just being fed to stay at a healthy state. You will not see many dogs as well conditioned as he is in that picture, whether you or anyone else thinks he is too thin or not. There is little to no back bone showing, no hip bones showing, and no matter what anyone thinks, only a hint of ribs showing in that picture... in that picture, he was not thin, skinny, starved, neglected, or abused, but simply worked.

Check my *edit* on my above post.
Alright, I did that... now how about you go read back through my posts in this thread to come up with that answer, if you really need one, because the subject of exercise, with her, has already been discussed. :)
 
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Alright, I did that... now how about you go read back through my posts in this thread to come up with that answer, if you really need one, because the subject of exercise, with her, has already been discussed. :)
You are less likely to play nice with others than I am arent you?

You want the breed to be portrayed in a better light, the owners should lead the way.

So how do you balance the exersize with the diet if this is mainly a house dog?
 
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