So. Angry.

Discussion in 'Dogs - General Dog Chat' started by houlahoops, Aug 23, 2012.

  1. houlahoops

    houlahoops New Member

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    People are so stupid.

    I was on a walk with Mammoth this evening through the neighborhood. Being quite arthritic, completely blind, and in dubious control of his rear legs, he can't navigate the woods anymore but I find that he enjoys an evening stroll around the block. The houses are fairly close together, but it's a relatively quiet area.

    Well we were walking along and I heard a door open to my right and two doodle-type dogs came sprinting across the road growling and barking at us. Both dogs had their hackles up and were clearly upset at our intrusion into their territory. Understandable.

    I immediately started yelling (my go-to of "HEY HEY HEY GIT"), and I looked up to see the owner standing on his porch with his arms folded. The dogs were immediately all over Mammoth (no serious contact but nipping and snarling) and he was just screaming and spinning. He finally fell down and I saw one of the dogs get ahold of his ear and I swung my cane at it and hit it in the head.

    The dog shrieked and backed off (meanwhile the other dog was still after Mammoth) and the owner bellowed from the porch, "They're friendly! You'd better not f*cking touch my dogs!"

    Needless to say I f*cking touched his dogs back across the street while my dog sat in a pool of his own vomit shrieking and wailing. The owner didn't even put the dogs back into the house and started yelling threats at me. I told him he was next if his dogs ever harassed us again (with a little profanity thrown in).

    Mammoth was so distressed that I had to carry him home. As soon as I put him inside he came up lame in the right rear leg.

    I am so absolutely infuriated. I was in tears the whole way home. I understand that accidents happen: dogs get out. My dogs are not friendly and are always on leash around others, but I realize that people make mistakes and that's fine. But to stand on the g*dd*mn porch while your dogs punch holes in mine?

    I'm also torn up about hitting the dogs. I don't like hitting dogs. I have no idea if I caused any damage. It's certainly possible. I hit them as hard as I could. Why the f*ck would you put your dog in a position where somebody felt they have to defend themselves against it? I'm sure they were fine animals. It's not their fault that their jack*ss owner didn't care enough about them to keep them safe or remove them from a dangerous situation.

    :( :( :(

    I'm so sick of dog fights. I want to go back to Maine where I'm lucky to see another dog once a week. And it's always under voice control.

    /whine
     
  2. Renee750il

    Renee750il Felurian

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    D@mn. Talk about a total dickhead.

    How is Mammoth? Calming down any? Do you have any Rescue Remedy? Please give him a good ear rub from me <3
     
  3. CharlieDog

    CharlieDog Rude and Not Ginger

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    Call the police and or animal control and report him. Immediately. What a jacka$$!
     
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    stardogs Behavior Nerd

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    Yes, call AC or the police, heck, maybe both since the guy was being threatening toward you....
     
  5. ~Dixie's_Mom~

    ~Dixie's_Mom~ ♥Chloe & Violet♥

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    Wow! I'm so sorry this happened, I home Mammoth is okay! Who gets mad at the VICTIM of their dog?
     
  6. Lizmo

    Lizmo Water Junkie

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    Holy smokes. I have no advice beyond what others have said. Is Mammoth okay, not any punctures?
     
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    Definitely call the police. I'd be filing a report for both his and his dogs' behavior, and sending him vet bills. (((hugs))) to you and the big guy.
     
  8. StephyMei1112

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    Holy sh!t what a arsehole. Mammoth better now?

    Me and my little Kuvasz are routinely harassed by a Golden and Berner puppy named Cooper and Chloe respectively. Katalin at this point is un-offended by this but both of us have been spooked/startled by it on many occasions. I've yelled many a time at the Golden's owner - she lets him off leash in her UNFENCED front yard as she gardens. Her response: "Oh sheesh he's so friendly!". Ya - my LGD might not be so easy going about being jumped apon pretty soon....
     
  9. houlahoops

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    He's finally starting to settle down. He's still a little sore but I popped him a Rimadyl and he's sleeping.

    Bailey was with us too, though, and in the tussel apparently received a pretty significant laceration right along his browline. I didn't even see it happen: it must have been after I pulled the first dog off and was fighting with the second one :(

    The guy's an asshole, but my parents don't want to make trouble with the neighbors so I haven't made any calls...you can bet I will be bringing pepper spray next time.

    (((hugs))) Thanks, y'all. It's nice to have people who get it :(

    Edit: No RR unfortunately. We used to keep it on hand for Liberty but we just ran out. As for punctures, Mammoth has a real thick coat and was luckily just drooly and sore from falling and being carried (there really is no comfortable way for me to carry a dog that weighs nearly what I do :( )
     
  10. Renee750il

    Renee750il Felurian

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    Maybe Mammoth should go for a walk with Kharma. She LIVES to put the fear in assholes like that, lol.
     
  11. StephyMei1112

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    Or perhaps a walk with Clint or Fred would help as well - A local CAS and Caucasian O I am both familiar with. They are...daunting to say the least.
     
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    What a nightmare! Poor Mammoth, I can't even imagine going through that! I'd be carrying a stick and some pepper spray next time!
     
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    Cali Mae Little dog, big voice

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    Poor guy! Hopefully he starts feeling a little better. I also would've done the exact same thing.. except I probably would've been even more forceful about it. I'd feel bad about hurting a dog too, but if they were going to hurt my dogs, I'd be sure to stop them. Especially considering Cali is a grand total of five pounds, and Moses would probably just sit there and take it.. seeing as how he's 11 with not a single mean bone in his body.

    I agree with everyone else, I'd go to whoever is the main authority in your town.
     
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    Ugh, I'm sorry... I feel your rages, i've been put in that situation more times than I care to count. And 9 times out of 10 the owner is standing 30ft away not doing a **** thing! Grrr!

    And people think there's something wrong with Scout that she sometimes fear barks at strange off leash dogs now (usually only when Lily is with us because she is more confident with her whole "pack" present). I actually had a supposed friend tell me dogs who bark at other dogs shouldn't be allowed in public... I kinda went off on her.

    Gee she wouldn't be afraid if it weren't for jerks who refuse to control/contain their dog aggressive dogs. :rolleyes:

    I would love to see Kharma deal with situations like this. Of course then she'd be in trouble because everyone know the widdle labby wabby poos would never start a fight. Ugh, just can't win!

    Lol, can you tell how sick I am of this crap?
     
  15. Renee750il

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    Kharma has a unique way of dealing with it, lol. She pees in their faces, or, if they're REALLY obnoxious, she'll crap. She likes to let them know how insignificant they are and exactly what her opinion of them is. The farthest she's ever had to go with any of them is a quick airsnap a few whisker-widths away from the face. Tallulah's been the only one fool enough not to back up :rolleyes: Even the neighbor's white GSDs that are notorious for aggressive behavior give her a wide berth now. I think the fact that she's so SUDDEN -- she can be facing away and do an instantaneous 180 and finish a snap in front of the face in the time it takes the other dog to almost finish their lunge -- changes the dynamic, lol.
     
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    Poor Mammoth. :(

    You're better than me, because not only would I have beaten those dogs senseless, I would've whipped out my cell phone and called the local police. My next call would've been to Animal Control. Unless you report these idiots, and repeatedly, then they'll never stop. Trust me. I lost a dog in almost the same way. The difference is the other dog's owner grabbed a shotgun and shot MY dog.
     
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    Sorry to hear that. Don't feel bad about hitting the other dogs. I'd have hit, kicked, punched, choked, etc. until the dogs left mine alone.

    When Xena was little, a bully mix down the street got out and attacked Xena, my kids and my wife (nobody was home, the dog got the window open and then jumped through the screen). Mrs. Q choked that dog off until it let go and continued choking until it got docile. She released it and it ran back home. The dog got off lucky, IMO.
     
  18. Doberluv

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    Poor mammoth. I agree with calling the authorities. They won't change. Jerks like that seem to feel power when their dogs bully other dogs and people who are minding their own business. I hope mammoth will be ok. Back in Idaho my son shot his gun in the air to get an aggressive dog away. That worked. There, it would not be out of the realm to kill the dog, but he wouldn't do that. And of course, in the city you can't discharge fire arms usually. Pepper spray is hard to do without getting your dog or yourself. I wonder what weapon would be best. I guess what you did worked. I can't believe what that jerk said. I suppose if you called the authorities, he might be imbalanced enough to retaliate.
     
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    I would be angry too. He obviously doesn't understand that friendly dogs don't charge others. If he wanted to introduce his dogs to yours it should have been on a leash. Besides that his only defense was that his dogs are friendly, but what if yours isn't. You were doing the right thing and keeping yours on a leash. You have every right to be angry. So sorry poor mammoth and you were traumatized by that idiot.
    Consider how sad it is that a person who owns 2 dogs doesn't understand anything about dogs in general. He's missing out on a whole different world with his dogs by pure ignorance.
     
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    I just don't understand when the other dog's owner does absolutely nothing. Years ago, my husband and I were walking our dog Roxy through the neighborhood and we walked by a house that had the door propped open (I think they were either getting or getting rid of some furniture, I don't really remember). As we passed by, two small dogs came tearing out of the house barking and carrying on and as the owner stood just watching it all happen, one of them leapt up on her, grabbed her throat, and literally hung from her throat/neck growling and gyrating.

    Fortunately it was wee enough that it only got a mouthful of skin and hair, and sweet old Roxy just stood there trying to look at it hanging from her neck and didn't fight back, but for crying out loud - act like you give a crap, lady. I grabbed it by the scruff, it let go and when I gave it to her I told her YOUR DOGS SHOULD BE CONFINED OR ON A LEASH IF THEY'RE GOING TO ACT THAT WAY. She says, "But they didn't mean to hurt anyone!"

    ...

    What? Just what? I'm pretty sure when your dog latched onto my dog's neck, it meant to hurt her -- AND IT DID. The skin wasn't broken, but she was badly bruised. Lady didn't even apologize. I just don't get it. I'd be mortified if our roles were reversed and I would have groveled the grovelling of a lifetime.
     

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