Should moderators be able to delete their own threads IF...

[JessLough]

I'm usually not one to question moderators. I appreciate everything you guys do, really, and I typically never have a problem- and if I do, it's minor and I do not really care enough to speak up.

However, I do not think it is over the top to question that a moderator has the option to edit a thread that is 3 years old and then simply makes one disappear just because her breeding ethics and ethics are being questioned. As far as I can tell, the thread about her accidental breeding was not a witch hunt. Members of this forum were concerned BECAUSE it was an established member. What is wrong with simply wanting to know the truth? Someone even mentioned in a very polite way to post some proof of the dogs pedigrees- and even mentioned that, of course, she wasn't ordered to, but it would just be nice to regain some trust.

And now that Jessie questions the ability to delete threads just because they make the OP uneasy, who happens to be a mod? I am sorry, but locking her threads without reason and just telling her to pm MeatyTreats is unacceptable. I doubt he has the time or the patience to deal with this- that's what the mods are for. But to deem every mod as untouchable and unquestionable- that is outrageous.

Now please feel free to lock or delete this- but I believe Jessie and me are not the only ones who are upset and it would be nice to discuss this.

:hail:

I have to agree with this. There have been other people come on the forum, post things, and the members outright attacked them, and nothing was done by any of the mods. But because a mod posts something that was questioned by members, who do not agree, and made the mod uneasy, that person deletes their thread like it never happened?

 

[AllieMackie]

I've sent a PM. I feel it's more productive than loading the forum with posts-to-be-locked.

 

[eddieq]

Fine, I won't lock this one right now. Discuss away. But know this.

1. The puppies thread had become a witch hunt. It was degenerating very quickly.
2. In my opinion, the only reason the other two threads were started here in the FH was to cause trouble.

I will unlock the other two threads and merge with this one to keep the discussion in one place. Keep it civil or the thread(s) will be canned.

 

[Laurelin]

I've sent a PM. I feel it's more productive than loading the forum with posts-to-be-locked.

I have too, but I thinks something needs to be said publicly. I think there has been a big breach of trust because of the way things have been handled.

 

[Laurelin]

Fine, I won't lock this one right now. Discuss away. But know this.

1. The puppies thread had become a witch hunt. It was degenerating very quickly.
2. In my opinion, the only reason the other two threads were started here in the FH was to cause trouble.

I will unlock the other two threads and merge with this one to keep the discussion in one place. Keep it civil or the thread(s) will be canned.

Personally, I do not believe the thread was a witch hunt. I for one was attempting to be polite. It is hard when there is such a breach of trust and honesty like I feel was there. People were asking questions, yes, but they should not have been hard questions to answer.

Also, recalling past threads (like the dachshund breeder) things have been much much worse. Only the member wasn't a mod or a long term member so they were crucified.

I just think we deserve honesty from our moderators and they should be held to the same standard as every other forum member is.

 

[AllieMackie]

I have too, but I thinks something needs to be said publicly. I think there has been a big breach of trust because of the way things have been handled.

True.

Eddie, I appreciate you opening this up for discussion. I sent you a PM with some (possibly) constructive crit for all the mods, I hope it may help.

 

[corgipower]

1. The puppies thread had become a witch hunt. It was degenerating very quickly.

We've had many "witch hunt" threads that don't get deleted. Some get locked, but they don't get deleted.

 

[xpaeanx]

Personally, I do not believe the thread was a witch hunt. I for one was attempting to be polite. It is hard when there is such a breach of trust and honesty like I feel was there. People were asking questions, yes, but they should not have been hard questions to answer.

Also, recalling past threads (like the dachshund breeder) things have been much much worse. Only the member wasn't a mod or a long term member so they were crucified.

I just think we deserve honesty from our moderators and they should be held to the same standard as every other forum member is.

I want to find the like button for this post.

 

[Jules]

Personally, I do not believe the thread was a witch hunt. I for one was attempting to be polite. It is hard when there is such a breach of trust and honesty like I feel was there. People were asking questions, yes, but they should not have been hard questions to answer.

Also, recalling past threads (like the dachshund breeder) things have been much much worse. Only the member wasn't a mod or a long term member so they were crucified.

I just think we deserve honesty from our moderators and they should be held to the same standard as every other forum member is.

:hail::hail::hail:

I absolutely agree.

And, Eddie, thank you for opening the threads up.

 

[Laurelin]

Yes thank you Eddie for letting us speak. That has really helped the way I was feeling about all this.

 

[Fran27]

Eddie, all the threads that have degenerated that way in the past have been locked... not deleted. It's a clear abuse of status to delete threads when you don't like where they are going... Like Laurelin said, if mods can't hold themselves to the same standard as anyone else, they should not be mod.

That being said, I have a bigger problem with a mod lying... I'd like to be able to trust the mods, can't say it's the case here.

 

[-bogart-]

I just think we deserve honesty from our moderators and they should be held to the same standard as every other forum member is.

I agree with this , and actually believe that a MOD should be held to a little higher standards. Chaz is all about responsible breeding and to have a mod
lie and decieve then be able to change her words and delete her threads like there is nothing wrong with it sit real bad with me.

I dont have the words for how i feel , but will say just this and am done with this.

You should respect Mods on a forum , and I have lost all respect for her and I belive alot of others have to.

 

[GlassOnion]

We've had many "witch hunt" threads that don't get deleted. Some get locked, but they don't get deleted.

Word. It was obviously deleted only because a mod was the target this time around. That was the only variable that changed from that thread and the other, very similar ones, that preceded it.

 

[Paige]

I think what really got everyone riled up was the fact we were denied being allowed to ask questions, proof suddnely got altered, threads got deleted and then locked. All because its a mod. Lots of members have flown off the handle at unplanned, or poorly planned breedings before and we're allowed to eat them alive so to speak for PAGES at a time. So whats any different here?

I personally do not feel like anything I ever say comes across as an attack. I am polite and keep things civil. But I dont always bite my tongue and not say anythign.

 

[~Jessie~]

Thanks for unlocking my thread(s).

These threads weren't created to cause trouble. I created these threads so that they would be seen, and we could have a place to discuss this.

Obviously the original thread that Foxy made was deleted, so I felt that it was appropriate to make a thread here.

I just don't think that this should be tucked away and forgotten about. It wasn't some trolling member who posted about breeding her dogs... it was a longstanding member who was also a moderator. I guess when I see a moderator on the forum, I expect to be able to trust them. After all, when we're having issues with the forum or the members, you're supposed to PM a moderator to help you.

Now, when a moderator has been lying to their "online family" who trusts them and expects trust in return, it's really... sad. And when a moderator goes back to edit 3 year old posts to change their story it's just unfair.

 

[Saeleofu]

Mods deleting their own thread and not allowing members the same privilege is pretty **** shady. I've been a member of a forum in the past where mods/owner did whatever and everyone else was punished for the slightest thing. We don't need mods who abuse their powers.

This place has some great mods, but it also has some of the worst mods I've ever seen.

Now, I saw the initial post, but I didn't see all the replies. I really would like to see what was said, but now I can't do that. So, all I can do is assume the worst. That probably wasn't the goal when the thread was deleted. If it's locked, we can all still go and read it, but can't add. Locking would have been 100% okay with me.

If anyone does, by chance, have screen shots, I'd love to see them...PM me please.

 

[-bogart-]

If anyone does, by chance, have screen shots, I'd love to see them...PM me please.

me also please.

 

[Taqroy]

I'd personally settle for a summary of what happened. I saw the thread this morning and saw people asking questions about the dogs but apparently I missed where it got nasty (if it even did?).

 

[Island dog]

The thing I admire about this forum is that honesty and fairness is something the mods and members strive for. I believe that's why we do care for each other and reach out and offer assistance when any members are in need. It's because we believe what we are being told. I remember reading a thread by Renee where she states we are a close group but don't tolerate bullsh!t and liars will be called out.

We all need to know we are treated equally. I hope we can have our faith restored as this is an amazing group of people. We have to be able to trust each other.

 

[babymomma]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I for one hope she looses her moderator PRIVILEGES.
Her whole membership is based upon a lie from what I can tell (From the lies on the crestie forum as well)..That does not sit well with me at all. :/

I mean, If you're going to lie, at least keep track of your story(s) (or just use one) geeez.