Returning a dog to the breeder - Questions/Rant

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It's a pretty huge accusation... too bad the pictures don't show the chest marking very clearly.
 
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That poor poor dog, so happy it's in a good home now.

And from what I can see looks like similar markings. I would be pretty surprised if the breeder was making this up.
 

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And if it is the same dog, how are any of you able to point fingers and DARE accuse another person of neglect and abuse? How can you be sure of the validity of something via the Internet so strongly that you can throw such serious accusations around? God knows how this dog ended up like this... But Red Chrome you should be ashamed. Absolutely ashamed.
 
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My question is what would the breeder gain by making this up? I am sure she is aware that some people will not believe her or accuse her of sour grapes, that some people may even choose to stay away because of drama etc. So she stands to loose more than she gains....so what would be the point in lying about it?
 

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I'm just going to say right now that this is bullshit and a lie and you should be ashamed of yourself for dredging up a YEAR old thread to start drama on a book that had been closed.

I know Jairi well and am great friends with her... She does not abuse her dogs. Even ones she feels don't fit into her homes. She is a proven and respected sport/show home. Funny these photos pop up a year later... Sounds to me like a breeder with a grudge and a totally different dog.

Grow. Up.

As much as I DON'T like saying this....it's not a different dog. I went to the breeder's site and compared, everything is identical down to the chest marking and dark coloring.
 

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"Oh, there's pictures on the Internet, so that makes it 100% true! Lets accuse someone of neglect and malnourishment!"

And that was a post that could have been sent via private message...but some people have go bloat their egos...
 

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Why would they make this up? And if they have vet papers from that time to go with the pics I don't see any reason to not believe them. And is it really that hard to picture with how the op was originally talking about how the smallest interaction with the dog was 'hell'

If this is the dog I'm glad he's doing so much better. And honestly I wish we had updates on more dogs that people from here 'loved' and then did horrible things to. Not knowing what happened with Binn still kills me :(
 

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I'm just going to say right now that this is bullshit and a lie and you should be ashamed of yourself for dredging up a YEAR old thread to start drama on a book that had been closed.

I know Jairi well and am great friends with her... She does not abuse her dogs. Even ones she feels don't fit into her homes. She is a proven and respected sport/show home. Funny these photos pop up a year later... Sounds to me like a breeder with a grudge and a totally different dog.

Grow. Up.
Ummm.... I know Dianna and would be EXTREMELY (in caps) surprised if she made up something like this. She has nothing to benefit from making up mean fake stories about her puppy buyers and everything to lose if exposed, so why do it?

So glad this dog is in better shape and a good home now.
 
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"Oh, there's pictures on the Internet, so that makes it 100% true! Lets accuse someone of neglect and malnourishment!"

And that was a post that could have been sent via private message...but some people have go bloat their egos...
I think it has a lot more to do with making sure this doesn't happen again. That no dog is once again placed in a home where it comes out of it looking like that.

No, no one here is 100% sure but I'll be honest, I'm pretty much convinced. But don't you worry, chaz as a whole is great at digging, I imagine if these are fake it will be found out. And if they aren't, well I'm very very glad this is publicly posted rather than privately dealt with
 

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As I said, the breeders phone number is on her website, feel free to contact her.
 

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I think it has a lot more to do with making sure this doesn't happen again. That no dog is once again placed in a home where it comes out of it looking like that.

No, no one here is 100% sure but I'll be honest, I'm pretty much convinced. But don't you worry, chaz as a whole is great at digging, I imagine if these are fake it will be found out. And if they aren't, well I'm very very glad this is publicly posted rather than privately dealt with
:hail:
 

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Jairi (Teal) is a great dog owner and a proven show/sport home and is trusted and loved by many in the dog community. It sickens me the anyone would find it appropriate or tactful or mature to accuse her of something this serious publicly.
 

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Barbara, when you say you know her well do you mean internet friends? Or do you hang out in person and personally view the condition of her dogs and how she treats them? Just curious because there is a huge difference between the two. If you personally saw the condition of that puppy while it was in her possession and it was fine, then I'd say you have something to complain about.
 

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Jairi (Teal) is a great dog owner and a proven show/sport home and is trusted and loved by many in the dog community. It sickens me the anyone would find it appropriate or tactful or mature to accuse her of something this serious publicly.
Well, that's the fun thing about the dog world in any avenue. Lots of shady people who look like saints, but behind the scenes aren't really all that awesome. Which is why there are people like those on Chaz, who are experts at finding the truth behind these sorts of things.
 

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I think it has a lot more to do with making sure this doesn't happen again. That no dog is once again placed in a home where it comes out of it looking like that.

No, no one here is 100% sure but I'll be honest, I'm pretty much convinced. But don't you worry, chaz as a whole is great at digging, I imagine if these are fake it will be found out. And if they aren't, well I'm very very glad this is publicly posted rather than privately dealt with
Very much agreed. No matter which way this turns out, people SHOULD know.

Abusers in any form can keep abusing where 'privacy' and/or silence is present.
 

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Jairi (Teal) is a great dog owner and a proven show/sport home and is trusted and loved by many in the dog community. It sickens me the anyone would find it appropriate or tactful or mature to accuse her of something this serious publicly.
I like Teal, I REALLY do. But you have to remember her history with her dogs and re-homing them. And well the pictures don't lie. That being spoken, I do recall Red having some abuse accusations on another forum as well. I don't remember them clearly, but I remember them.

I don't know the beef between the two of them, but again the pictures can't lie and you have to wonder......how much do we REALLY know about Teal?
 

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Well, that's the fun thing about the dog world in any avenue. Lots of shady people who look like saints, but behind the scenes aren't really all that awesome. Which is why there are people like those on Chaz, who are experts at finding the truth behind these sorts of things.
See? I have a different word for that...I call that a stalker with no time on their hands. To dredge up a year old thread? RedChrome must have a little obsession with Teal... What's the deal?

And like I said, there was no tact. To make an accusation like that publicly? Ha! Good thing Internet forums exist because God knows she wouldn't make an accusation like that without hiding behind a keyboard.
 

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