Discussion in 'The Breeding Ground' started by Crowsfeet, Sep 20, 2009.
Thats good. Not much more you can ask for.
It shouldn't be hard to find a reputable working Border Collie litter, then.
Also would like to point out its not hard at all to find young adult or even puppies in rescue.
Oh, I also don't know exactly where you are, but the National Sheepdog Finals will be going on soon in Klamath Falls, Oregon September 22-27, 2009.
You could see alot of great handlers/breeders there along with great dogs. It would help you get a good feel for the breed and what they are like.
Keep in mind, you can own a border collie and not feel strongly about the working vs. showing debate. I have my opinions, but they don't affect me on a day to day basis. On a day to day basis, I just enjoy my border collie and stay out of the debates. Don't let an intense political group of dog owners (Bc owners in general) make you stay away from a breed or feel you have to choose a side. It's okay to be in between on things!
As far as Aussies and BCs go, I have met both, and considered both, and I found a lot of differences. I much preferred the drive and intensity of border collies, plus I like their look more
I'm a bit obsessive.... well more than a bit obsessive when it comes to these things. I think it partly goes hand in hand with bc owner/lover personality types, lol. You have to be a bit crazy and a bit of a perfectionist to own these dogs. I had to know everything of every side of the story before really jumping in (which I still am in the process of). I do think it's important when choosing breeders to keep the future of this breed in mind. Think of who you're supporting and if you agree with what they're doing. Day to day it doesn't really matter, especially if you do rescue, but the initial purchase imo does matter.
Then there's also trying to find a dog that suits you. A conformation style bc would likely not suit my wants in a dog. Even just looks wise, just not my taste. So knowing the lines and personalities, drive levels, etc will be beneficial.
I like bcs a lot more than aussies. They're less overwhelming to me (ironic to most people I know but I know bc people that feel the same way). Yeah bcs are more intense but in a way I enjoy more. That's all personal opinion though. Meet some of both and see which you like better. I don't think they're as similar as people make them out to be.
Oh yes, I would say definitely have an opinion before finding a breeder. I believe its okay to have an opinion on it, I have one- I think border collies should be bred with the intent to work or do sports(I just don't get as heated about conformation breeders tho), but all I'm saying is don't feel you have to be involved in the great BC political debate throughout your life with your dog. That's all I'm saying. I was scared before I got a BC that it was going to be so tiresome to keep up with all of the politics within the breed- but I've just more or less ignored it and it's been fine for me.
Border collie owners are very intense people- haha which reflects in the breed of choice. I think all of us are a bit nutty- having to buy the perfect food, starting clicker training on the car ride home from the breeder, researching which sport we want to pursue before the puppy is even born. It's one of the only breeds where people will actually change their lifestyle for their dog I find- many people have actually gone out and bought land and sheep for their dogs. It's part of what I do love about the community. We are all over the top, even the more mild like me!
I agree. Especially with your last paragraph. Hehe.
IMO, unless you are questioned daily on your stand on Border Collie Politics, it won't effect your everyday life. I know it doesn't for me and I'm active with Blaze in different things regularly.
My views are pretty grounded, but it doens't mean when I meet a Border Collie the first thing I think is 'how is that dog bred'.
border collie Rescue in OR:
Shedd Border Collie Rescue
Border Creek Rescue
Australian shepherd rescue in OR:
Aussie Rescue & Placement Helpline
and I know you are not getting the pup for a while but I couldn't help myself (didn't include dogs from the rescues I listed but there are some that appear perfect for you there):
Adopt a Border Collie: Sherlock: Petfinder
Adopt a Border Collie: Kayla: Petfinder
Separate names with a comma.