registering a pup from registered breeding parents with no papers???

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  1. chrisyboy

    chrisyboy New Member

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    ah yeah im near dewsbury :) thanks for the links will check them out, yeah i love staffs treated right their amazing called my staff ty like the teddybear brand coz thats all he is is a big bear lol yh definetly need someone to turn too lol
     
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    yeah the ncsbts one is close enough thank you, some good lookin dogs on both sites
     
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    if the parents of your dog are registered, there is a 'reason' you got him with no papers, the reason would be, the breeders didn't want you to breed him and be able to register puppies.

    with that, if you want reg papers the only way you will be able to register him is get papers from his breeder, if not, you will be breeding an uregistered dog, and even finding a female that IS registered is harder than finding a male..
     
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    I might be wrong on this but... Blue is a recessive gene. Meaning his puppies most likely won't be blue... What else does he have that contributes to the breed? Are you the one saying he's beautiful and built correctly towards the standard or is it a judge? What about his temperament, did he preform any tests that say his temperament is correct for his breed standard? Has he been health tested for genetic diseases common in the breed? Such as hip dysplasia, elbow dysplasia, thyroid, CERF, etc.

    Also, stud dog owners don't go out looking for bitches to breed to their dog. The owners of the bitches will seek health tested and titled dogs to be bred to their bitches.
     
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    I don't know what the procedure is in the UK in regards to late registering of a dog, but you'd need to go through the breeders for that.

    That said, as Christina said, your dog is not a rare color, he is the most common color currently being registered. The exact shade in a blue dog will vary, so the fact that his shade is slightly different from others you've seen is meaningless, and he probably won't reproduce it.

    The link you posted to, with his grandsire, is the website of puppy producers, and frankly a poor source of information. One of the points they consider important to mention on your dog's grandsire is that when he's put to blue bitches, all pups produced are blue. Yes, that is what happens. Blue is recessive, blue to blue can only produce blue. There can be varying amounts of white. They note that when bred to a blue and white bitch, the pups had little white, so they assume that Levi has "strong blue". No, he doesn't carry white markings. The amount of white is controlled by different genes than the blue. They note that when bred to black bitches, he can produce blue. Yes, of course he can. If the bitch is carrying the blue trait, when bred to a blue stud, on the average, half the pups she produce will be blue. Nothing special about the stud, it's simple genetics. Other than being blue, the dog has little to recommend him as a stud.

    You can talk to the breeders of your dog, and see if you can get registration on him. If you do want to breed him, you need to have the genetic testing done for L2HGA, and hereditary cataracts. You do that through Animal Health Trust: http://www.aht.org.uk/ The bitch will need to also have had these tests done. The eyes of both parents should also be tested, you can read about that here: http://www.bva.co.uk/canine_health_schemes/eye_scheme.aspx
     
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    CatStina SBT Lover!!

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    What health tests have you done or do you plan to do before breeding? Other than his "unique" color, what makes him worthy of being bred? Has he won any titles or passed any temperament tests? Do you participate in any sports with him?
     
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    frostfell Kung Pow Fish

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    Sought after =/= good. Popular =/= good.

    McDonalds is the highest grossing best selling cheeseburgers on the planet... but are they good? Are they quality? Are they sound nutrition? Don't fall prey to the McDonalds Syndrome
     
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    Julee UNSTOPPABLE

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    How old is the dog? Health test results? What sports do you plan on participating in with him? What kind of contract have you thought up for future puppy owners? What are your breeding goals? Do you plan on becoming a breeder? How's his structure?
     
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    Is it common for dog breeders to have photos of dogs in tie on their websites? o___O
     
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    Trashy ones. Doggy porn is a pet peeve of mine. Disgusting and low class.
     
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    CatStina SBT Lover!!

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    I agree. I see it on "American Bully" websites and it annoys me to no end. Real classy...
     
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    i dont know whats on the website just the dogs, i havent entered him into any competitions YET the thought had never even crossed my mind but thanks so some HELPFUL people on here i have been looking into it, where as these comments about ty who you HAVENT met HAVENT seen at all and your just going on your OWN feelings on the breed are NOT needed!!! fair enough blue staffs might be one of the most commen dogs being registered at the moment but i must say i know of alot of people who are just getting pups for a bit of extra cash and only registering them to put the price up i would bet money on the fact that half the registered staffs in the uk havent won anything or had any real in depth tests which i've had my eyes opened too is a whole new world, i never said i knew everything i was asking for help an to a couple of you, thank you
     

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