registering a pup from registered breeding parents with no papers???

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  1. chrisyboy

    chrisyboy New Member

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    i have an 18month old generation pedigree blue staffordshire bull terrior, his gandad is the famous blue staf stud "levi" from the www.bluestafford.com website...im wanting to know if it is possible to register him so i can stud him but we didnt get any papers wen we got him as a pup, we got him from a breeder who has a registered breeding pair so obviously they didnt register him as they wernt keeping him, so does anybody know if u can register a dog with no papers and if so how do u do it?
     
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    Dizzy Sit! Good dog.

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    Why do you want to breed him?
     
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    im wantin to breed him as he is perfect..his temperment is amazing his colouring is kind of unique he comes from a breeding bloodline that is tight (not just any old dog is chosen) his dad is a breeding dog his grandad is a breeding dog (check the website www.bluestaffordshire.com his grandad is one of their star studs) there is nothing in him that shouldnt be (like cross/interbreeding).. not being funny but because some idiots miss treat or simply dont understand the dogs they get doesnt mean they shudnt be breed anymore, staffys brought up in right enviroment are the most lovin protective laid back dogs i think there is! thanks for the links guys will check them out :)
     
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    JessLough Love My Mutt

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    How has he been proven to be worthing of breeding? Titles, etc? How did his health testing come back?
     
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    Chris, fair warning, people ask a lot of questions and aren't exactly friendly when it comes to breeding something they consider substandard unless you can back your breeding choices with a valid argument.

    That said... I bet we'd all love some photos of your dog and any stories of showing/sporting, staffs are great dogs.
     
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    Just finished the movie. Those people have a lot of issues, not including the dogs.

    I don't know anything about registering your dog, but the people around here don't take breeding lightly. Especially with a breed such as this. Chaz is a wealth of information, it could really benefit you to check out the breeding section and ask some questions. If you don't want your dogs to end up like most do.

    Chazzers take breeding very seriously.
     
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    I think it's really great you are reaching out for information.

    That being said, I encourage you to really take your time and decide if your dog should be bred. There is a huge surplus of pet dogs that have no where to go but the shelter, and many of these animals have nice colours and sweet temperaments. While I have no doubts that your boy is a fantastic dog, the only ones that should really be considered for breeding are dogs who have proven themselves to be exceptional in one area or another (sports, working, conformation, etc.).

    If you decide to go through with it anyway, at least get his hips x-rayed and all the other critical health checks done. I am not sure what sorts of problems are common in your breed, but generally to be considered suitable for breeding purposes dogs should pass all relevant health clearances. By this I am not talking about a regular vet visit, but rather specific tests that determine the condition of dog's body parts that are susceptible to genetic diseases and problems.

    A lot of people here are very passionate about this subject because they deal with the dogs who have nowhere to go (perfectly nice, normal dogs that are often also purebred). It can be frustrating for them to see people going into breeding that don't really know what they are doing and don't have a good reason for doing it.

    Anyway, I hope you stick around and participate. It's a great forum filled with people that have extensive knowledge in dogs (and specifically, breeding and genetics which is very relevant to your endeavour).
     
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    those links arent wot im lookin for, that group requires you too have your dog spayed/neutered an that wont help for studding lol but thank u
     
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    You mention breeding dogs as a plus. Sarah can have more practical input on Staffords, but breeding a dog of ANY breed because it is BLUE is not a plus! BlueStaffords is a color breeder who is cashing in on the blue fad that is spreading through Staffords as bad as it hit APBTs. The fact that the litter wasn't registered, and you are probably in the UK, simply go back to the breeders you bought him from and see if your kennel club over there has a late registration program. Over here if the dog wasn't registered with UKC by a year then he can't be. AKC if the puppy papers weren't filed then you have no recourse with them.

    He might be a stellar dog and perfect in every way but he is an unregistered pet. There is no reason to breed him, just love him for who he is and IF you decide to get active in the breed, search out the parent Stafford club where you live and study, do your time researching peds and dogs beyond their breeding use and start with registered stock under a mentor.
     
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    There's a lot to learn about breeding. As you know as well as I do, staffs are the most overbred dogs in the UK. Have you thought about going along to any local shows near you to speak to other staff breeders and exhibitors for advice?

    Where abouts are you? There's a huge champ show on this weekend in Stafford (coincidence or what). Well, terriers are Thursday. You should go!! I'm going Sunday for the gundogs :)
     
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    i didnt expect so many replys lol i will definetly be doing more research into breeding because as you pointed out there is sooo many little things people dont think about but is very important, bluestafford dont only do blue staffs they use to but not anymore they have set up a great buisness even delivering chilled semen all over the place as their studs are so sought after there based in the uk an got pics of their studs pups born in france so they gotta be doin something right..? i looked at alot of forum websites reading peoples questions and comments and this site seemed the best so i stayed lol
     
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    that had never even crossed my mind about the shows, do u know a website to find out when and where they are kind of thing? lol im in west yorkshire, i've been thinkin about puttin my mini alsatian cross into shows because she is one of a kind, she looks like an alsatian (ears,tail,colouring an fur type) but shes the same height as my staff an got the same sort of body shape as a whipet or greyhound, when net will actually upload photos i'll put 1 up off her too...we saved her from a pet shop window :/
     
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    His coloring is not even a little bit unique!! "Blue" is the fad color at the moment for the breed and in the UK, 50% of all staffords recently registered were blue, that's more than all other recognised colours registered added together! Blue to blue breedings also can cause a lot of health problems such as color dilution alopecia and skin allergies. Unregistered Staffords are a dime a dozen in the UK, just have a look on gumtree or in the paper. You definitely need to do a LOT more research before deciding to breed your dog!!
     
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    This is probably your closest club.

    http://www.ncsbtc.org.uk/

    Some nice dogs there. They'll run their own shows too. Its good to get a mentor to learn from. Chaz has been mine! In all things dog, not breeding!
     
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    yes that is true, but my ty's mum was white and he's a different shade of blue when the sun hits its fur at the right angle he's got kind of like a purpley colour to him not like every staff see if been around staffs a good part of my life and i've seen some wierd colours but never anything likes ty's colouring and with his backround and bloodline he's a perfect stud yes unregistered are but im not looking to stud him to any idiot who wants a bit of extra cash! IF i do start to breed him it will be with a registered female so pups can b registered too! and findin the right female is gonna take time in its self so im not looking to do it like next month it would be 6 months minimum so gives me plenty of time for research!
     
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