Discussion in 'The Dog Breeds' started by Equinox, May 2, 2011.
Or you can be like my brother and his roommate and have a mix from both! I didn't know there were any English Shepherds around here, but apparently someone on a farm somewhere has one, because Jake and his roommate have two GSD/English Shepherd pups. They are freaking adorable, perfectly sized (45 pounds wet), and super smart and well behaved.
So if you happen to stumble across someone handing out pups for free like my brother's roommate did, it turned out well for them. lol
That is so awesome! They're definitely less rare in the States in seems - I've seen one single dog on the street so far that's looked like it could be an ES (didn't get a chance to stop and ask, so it might have even just been a BC cross), and it looked so uncannily like Quinn's granddam I figured it was probably a kid of hers. We only have the one breeder in the province - Quinn's.
You'll definitely have to let me know if you go visit Mary! I wonder if it was one of her puppies that you saw. I messaged her a couple weeks ago asking if she was planning on attending the meet up I'm going to but she said her son's HS graduation was that weekend so she wasn't going to be able to make it. I really wanted to meet her and hopefully one or two of her dogs - especially Honey or Tupelo. Like I said in a PM, watching Honey on youtube was what really made me go "OK, I NEED a dog like this!". If you go visit her you'll have to tell me all about Honey and Tupelo!
I've never met one of them, but I've met several Appenzellers, which is the fourth of the Swiss breeds. They sound fairly similar - definitely more herding dog type as far as personality and energy. Fairly aloof, some protective instinct, athletic - very cool dogs. I'd really like to "re-meet" them now that I'm more familiar with what I like in dogs.
Is your problem that you like the American ones looks better but you don't think they can be succesful in Schutzhund? There are plenty of American Dobes that do SchH. I don't know how far you would be looking to go in SchH. And I honestly don't know a whole lot about it.
Foxfire has a few who have done Schutzhund or are starting. Protocol Dobermans (bred the #1 Dobe Fifi) do Schutzhund with their dogs as well as show.
I can't answer threads like this- because I just want to respond with 'Border Collie' to all of them I don't find my border collies to be too too soft- but definitely more than like a german shepherd.
I think an English Shepherd or a typical collie-type farm dog would be a really good fit for you. I wouldn't look at border collies (just based on what little I know of what you're looking for) - my concern would be how high strung/intense they are vs. their soft temperament. Some BCs are really hard, usually the cattle-bred dogs, but I also find that they don't work quite like the sheepdogs do either. Really almost a different breed.
Smooth Collie from working lines, or a Whippet mix?
you might like a Dutch Shepherd... they are on the smaller end of your scale as far as size..
We have an Akita and she fits into pretty much everything you described. They're great with children that they know as long as they're around them from from the begining and most are fine with any child as long as they're used to them - cats, well, she's fine with ours but we bad to train her to be (pretty strong prey drive).
They're aren't super "biddable", but they are very smart and will work for their owner. Miya will do anything for a treat or even a good belly rub.
The grooming was the only other thing I paused at, but the only time I actually have to groom her is twice a year when she blows her coat (Furminator once a day and it's gone in a week or two). The rest of the time she doesn't even need brushing, just the ocassional bath in the back yard.
She's high energy on walks and when playing fetch etc., but a majority of the time really really mellow.
Only barks when someone actually comes to the door.
Not "bouncy" at all lol.
They are absolutely owner oriented, SUPER loyal
Large (our female is 75 lbs. and that's about average, I think males run more around 85 - 90 lbs.)
They definatly require an experienced dog-person because if they're not trained and sociallized early and properly, they do have a tendancy to try to dominate, ours definatly knows her place though and happily accepts it
I love the breed and will definatly have another one again, just a thought that no one mentioned