Raw feeding FAQ

Discussion in 'Dog Food and Recipes' started by doberkim, Aug 3, 2006.

  1. youbetcha1018

    youbetcha1018 New Member

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    Its fine,but not to much.It will make the dogs skin rough.
     
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    What will make the dogs skin rough?
     
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    i feel that feeding raw food is not that much cook instead u may cook it and feed your pet.it would be better.
     
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    Great post indeed.
     
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    dobesgalore New Member

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    That just answerd a number of questions I had about raw! That was great!
     
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    Great posts, Doberkim. Not long ago I was admiring some boxers and their puppy that belong to a woman who works in a pet food store near me, and I asked what she fed them. She was making her own raw diet for them. I think she was grinding chicken parts that she bought in bulk from the local butcher. Certainly no small task for dogs that size, but she was able and willing to do it and the dogs looked very happy and healthy.
     
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    Well I've been feeding my dogs raw foods for 2 years now and they become more active and healthy... No arguments with that... But I really loved the post I'ts quite long but it's very informative and helpful... thanks Doberkim !!!
     
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    colliewog Collies&Terriers, Oh My!

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    Q - is chicken gizzard an organ or a muscle (like the heart)?
     
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    Nutritionwise its a muscle.
     
  10. Roger Biduk

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    I realize this is an old post but just wanted to throw my two-cents in.

    Chicken gizzards and hearts are part of the offal group of foods which also include sweetbreads, tongue, beef tripe and chitlins (pork intestines).
    Offal is defined as "variety meats or organ meats (especially in the U.S.) and refers to the internal organs and entrails of a butchered animal".

    I feed both to my dogs and they are ingredients in the raw frozen foods we prepare.

    Whether you consider them organ meats or muscle, they're both great ingredients for your cat/dog.
    Roger Biduk
     
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    well done

    Hi Guys...


    Nice post. Learnt good lesson from it.
     
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    raw feeding

    I would prefer raw feed for any beast! If you can give your animal his natural diet, the health benefits will follow always.
     
  13. Roger Biduk

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    Absolutely... but

    ... the AVMA, AAHA, AAFP, NASPHV and every allopathic veteriarian I know of or talked to all condem raw feeding as bad and dangerous... would much rather sell you a bag of Hill's Prescription Diet kibble so they can make money on the food and big $$$$ when cats / dogs get an illness or disease because of the bad ingredients in the food.

    The pet industry is the most corrupt around.
    Roger Biduk
     
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    Raw meaty bones are the very best

    Finely chopped egg shells are an excellent source of calcium, around 1500-2000mg.

    Bones don't really do anything... it's meaty bones that do the trick.

    Long rib bones are excellent... besides being nutritious, it's the meat that comes in contact with the teeth and gums to clean them, basically wiping off plaque and bacteria.

    Dr Tom Lonsdale, DVM wrote two excellent books on the subject: Raw Meaty Bones Promote Health and Work Wonders - Feed Your Dog Raw Meaty Bones.
    Roger Biduk
     
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    Great post

    Loads of good info... nice job.
    Roger Biduk
     
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    Brisbane was rawfed for the first six years of his life, we did prey model, mostly organic and locally-raised chicken, turkey, quail, goat, ostrich, emu, llama, lamb, elk, some beef.

    I laugh my butt off every time I hear someone claim that food allergies are due to kibble and commercial pet food, because despite not having a morsel of kibble for all those years, Brisbane is allergic to chicken, turkey, duck, and eggs. These were each determined via elimination diet, and are reconfirmed occasionally when he gets into one of them and develops a hotspot within 24 hours.

    We did premade raw for a while, but it became cost prohibitive. I had to switch him to kibble because his caloric requirements are ridiculously low, and I could not manage adequate portion control on prey model raw without fasting him every other day.

    I was once part of the OMG KIBBLE IS POISON crowd, but things change. He does just as well or better on the kibble since I can manage portion control so much better. Just felt like sharing.
     
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    I've never heard anyone claim that all food related allergies in dogs were related to kibble. It's odd that someone would say that.

    I will say that Cobain cannot tolerate any poultry based kibble of any brand. Something to do with the processing of the kibble I guess causes incredible gastriYet can eat any raw chicken/turkey/duck without issue.

    Currently he's on a fish-based kibble and doing fine though. (I would prefer to feed raw, but it is not practical for my situation currently).
     
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    I think the raw community has gotten a tad more sensible and less hysterical in the nine years since Brisbane was a baby. I was part of several mailing lists and online communities where the general attitude was that all cooked food is severely detrimental to health and that kibble causes all health and behavior problems. There was even a small but vocal minority that claimed that vaccinations were reason some puppies were intolerable.

    I also think kibble has gotten a lot better since then, when Wellness seemed to be the best possible option and grain-free wasn't really a thing. Brisbane's elimination diet used all raw foods, a few months ago I decided to recheck his duck allergy by feeding him a frozen duck. He's still allergic to duck.
     
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    Cooked meats, vaccinations and kibble

    Hello Pinkspore,

    As you probably know, once meats reach an internal temperature of 118F or 42C the vitamins, enzymes and amino acids start to deteriorate really fast.... hence the huge list of added synthetic vitamins and minerals on a bag of kibble because of the high processing heat for extrusion.

    Vaccinations in puppies and older dogs are a huge problem... one-time vaccinations are good for life immunity and frequent (many really bad allopathic vets still actually vaccinate yearly!) vaccinations are a major cause of illness and disease, often terminal.

    I know of really bad vets who have vaccinated puppies as early as 5 weeks old... unbelievable.

    Wellness Core is an OK kibble, the rest that have grains are not.

    The six Wellness Core canned formulas are among the best wet foods.
    Roger Biduk
     
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    Cause of Allergies in Dogs

    Hello Ozfozz,

    Allergies are most often caused by diet, especially kibble... but It's not from the meat ingredients.

    It's from grains and ingredients found in low-quality kibble such as corn, wheat, soy and their derivatives that are loaded with carbohydrates (cellulose, starches and sugars).

    Low quality kibble include brands from Pedigree, Purina, Ol' Roy, Iams, Science Diet, Eukanuba and Hill's Prescription Diet among others.

    And the big problem with many lousy allopathic vets s that they give deadly steroids, usually Prednisone, when all they have to do is change to a good species-appropriate, balanced, enzyme-rich raw meat diet or a commercial diet that resembles one.
    Roger Biduk
     

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