So I found this forum when I was looking into what to feed my puppy and I received some help in that area and I thank you all for that.
I then started reading some of the other threads and I'm really having issues with this whole "any one who dose not show dogs shouldn't be breeding" thing. 1st off before you start typing let me say I have no intenchion of breeding dogs. We had one single basset for 13yr and will probably have one bullmastiff until the end comes. I'm going to try to take this point by point.
1. Only show dogs should ever be bread..
This to me is unbelievable. To base a dogs worth in $$ and life almost totally on looks alone. "conformation" from what I have seen is based almost completely on how a dog looks. A GS or Rott that can't guard or a blood hound that can't track, water dog afraid of the water... don't matter as long as they look the part. What you are saying with this is it dose not matter if your Dobie is the best police dog in history and saved the lives of ten families cut off his #@#$, can't you see the spot of white on his head? Is a dog only for looking at? Even if it is what if I think that spot of white is cute? Show dogs are only "bettering the breed" from a looks stand point.
2. Only pure breed dogs should be bread.
Which ones? AKC? CKC? etc... AT what point was it still ok to come up with new breeds? 100 years ago? 50? If ranchers find a great new combo for a cattle dog we just tell them forget it, you should have done it 100 years ago because now you are SOL?
3. Only PMs make $$ breeding dogs. This is just not correct. I know a few BYBs (who of course also eat children and are going to hell) that make $$. I've seen that ridiculous check list thing that lists all the costs, gas to go to the stud, extra electricity, lol. Even if we pretend everything on the list is correct many of the costs are gone after the 1st breeding. I'm not saying this is a reason to breed but no need to pretend. As with kids once people think they are being fed BS they will see it in everything you say.
4. You should only breed to better the breed....
You may be surprised to find I almost agree with this one.... but not the way you are thinking. I like to better the puppies or something like that. Weather it be to get a better working/service dog or a better show dog that conforms to your almighty standards. So my take here is you need to be trying to get something better but it dose no have to be based completely on looks. You maybe even trying to make a dobie that is a better guard dog even if his ears are not just right! shame on you! I'm also thinking it is probably ok if you just want a pup for your self. A lot of you will not like that part but some of the same ones think it's ok to breed for just one show puppy. If you want one so bad you just need to be ready to accept responsability for the litter, spay, nuter, homes etc..
Ok thanks for listening, commence with the beat downs...
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I then started reading some of the other threads and I'm really having issues with this whole "any one who dose not show dogs shouldn't be breeding" thing. 1st off before you start typing let me say I have no intenchion of breeding dogs. We had one single basset for 13yr and will probably have one bullmastiff until the end comes. I'm going to try to take this point by point.
1. Only show dogs should ever be bread..
This to me is unbelievable. To base a dogs worth in $$ and life almost totally on looks alone. "conformation" from what I have seen is based almost completely on how a dog looks. A GS or Rott that can't guard or a blood hound that can't track, water dog afraid of the water... don't matter as long as they look the part. What you are saying with this is it dose not matter if your Dobie is the best police dog in history and saved the lives of ten families cut off his #@#$, can't you see the spot of white on his head? Is a dog only for looking at? Even if it is what if I think that spot of white is cute? Show dogs are only "bettering the breed" from a looks stand point.
2. Only pure breed dogs should be bread.
Which ones? AKC? CKC? etc... AT what point was it still ok to come up with new breeds? 100 years ago? 50? If ranchers find a great new combo for a cattle dog we just tell them forget it, you should have done it 100 years ago because now you are SOL?
3. Only PMs make $$ breeding dogs. This is just not correct. I know a few BYBs (who of course also eat children and are going to hell) that make $$. I've seen that ridiculous check list thing that lists all the costs, gas to go to the stud, extra electricity, lol. Even if we pretend everything on the list is correct many of the costs are gone after the 1st breeding. I'm not saying this is a reason to breed but no need to pretend. As with kids once people think they are being fed BS they will see it in everything you say.
4. You should only breed to better the breed....
You may be surprised to find I almost agree with this one.... but not the way you are thinking. I like to better the puppies or something like that. Weather it be to get a better working/service dog or a better show dog that conforms to your almighty standards. So my take here is you need to be trying to get something better but it dose no have to be based completely on looks. You maybe even trying to make a dobie that is a better guard dog even if his ears are not just right! shame on you! I'm also thinking it is probably ok if you just want a pup for your self. A lot of you will not like that part but some of the same ones think it's ok to breed for just one show puppy. If you want one so bad you just need to be ready to accept responsability for the litter, spay, nuter, homes etc..
Ok thanks for listening, commence with the beat downs...
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