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What I meant health problems is like any dog can get. All puppies can get sick like kennel cough. It wasn't anything major.
 
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gaddylovesdogs said:
What testing did you do?

Yikes you asked how many times now? I do not think she wants to answer you.


Candy does this mean all the pups have found homes? I think that is right and great, I am happy for you. Good luck with your pup!
 

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What are you trying to get at? Are you trying to say that my dog has disease because his not tested, and he has no papers, and not show quality? Im resposible with my pup and my friends will take good care of them. Anything happens to these pups we are responsible for. We are not like those people that you are refering to being irresposible.We are not going to kick them out or have them end up in shelters if their sick.
 
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candy722 said:
What are you trying to get at? Are you trying to say that my dog has disease because his not tested, and he has no papers, and not show quality? Im resposible with my pup and my friends will take good care of them. Anything happens to these pups we are responsible for. We are not like those people that you are refering to being irresposible.

Honestly unless they are buying a pup it is none of their business what health tests you have done. I asked at the very beginning and you know what? It ain't my business because I would not be buying a pup anyway. Candy and her friend are responsible for whatever happens and unfortunately that is the way it is and how they choose to deal with any issues if they ever arise again are their business not mine.
 
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Five times I have asked what testing you have done...you not answering shows you can't answer because you didn't do any.
 
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gaddylovesdogs said:
Five times I have asked what testing you have done...you not answering shows you can't answer because you didn't do any.

Did you buy a pup from Candy? Are you planning too? The pups have been homed time to move on now! It is wearing very thin here.
 

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She obviously just doesn't get it Gaddy. And Candy if you don't perform the tests, how else will you know if your "stud" or your friends "bitch" are sound and will not pass on health risks that can be prevented or diagnosed?
 

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You can't undo the breeding, and I'm glad to know that you're helping to find the pups good homes, but please, in the future...don't do this again...get your dog neutered.
 

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Sorry but no she is not a show quality dog but smart. Both parents are very healthy got their examed. I know what im doing and being very responsible even though I don't own the female. I did it because I was going to keep one of the pups and so is she as well. And the good news is that the other two pups has found families. Trust me, Im against breeding dogs with bad health or defects.
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What are you trying to get at? Are you trying to say that my dog has disease because his not tested, and he has no papers, and not show quality? Im resposible with my pup and my friends will take good care of them. Anything happens to these pups we are responsible for. We are not like those people that you are refering to being irresposible.We are not going to kick them out or have them end up in shelters if their sick.
Sorry I just have to put my two cents in.... The breeding happened... i dont think it should have but it did, and good for you for trying to find them good homes. Now be a RESPONSIBLE person and sell your puppy's only with a NON breeding contract! Make the new owners get them neutered/spayed at 6 months.

The only reason breeders should be breeding is to better the breed. Since the dog (s?) you are talking about is not show quality means it does not meet the breedstandard, therefor it's puppy's will most likely also not meet breed standard, if they get bred.... etc. etc.

You say you are against breeding dogs with bad health or defects yet you have not gotten yours tested? How do you know it doesn't have a genetic desease that it could now have passed on to it's puppys? If you are so against it then why didn't you get your dogs tested?

Admit you did something wrong, or tell everyone I dont care how good your arguments are i'm not going to listen to you and do what I want anyway. But please dont start defending yourself with stupid stuff like there's kids out there that are orphans why are you having kids. Especially if people can't have kids that is something cruel to say! There is tons of people out there that would love to adopt a child (myself included) but sadly that is just not an option for everyone.

I hope you will find good homes for your puppies and that all goes well for them. And also that you will not breed again unless you really want to become responsible about it.
 

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i don't care whether a dog is show quality or not, that doesn't matter to someone who wants a dog only as a companion animal.

however, even in a pet dog it matters that the dog is healthy and free of genetic disorders like liver shunt, collapsing trachea, cushing's disease, legg-calve-perthes disease, luxating patellas, hypoglycemia, hemorrhagic gastric enteritis, retinal dysplasia, progressive retinal atrophy and so on and so forth.

responsible breeders test for these disorders and eliminate them fromt heir breeding program as much as possible. since you continue to evade questions on the topic of health issues, i can only assume that you don't have a clue if your dog and the female you bred him to possibly pass on any number of these in their offspring.

my friend's dog that died suffered from a collapsing trachea, luxating patellas and severe allergies, so she isn't going to take the risk of buying a puppy from unproven stock ever again. i can't say i blame her, because int he six short years her poor little dog lived, she spent thousands of dollars in vet costs to have all the problems diagnosed and treated.

you are a prime example of a back yard breeder who is bringing puppies in this world for no good reason at all.
 
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oh crap... it is like this... the females owners wanted to breed their dog and it is her responsibility to find owners for the puppies if she doesnt it isnt the males owners fault.. LOL.. .that would be like you going and having an implant done to have a kid and you thinking that the man that was the original owner of the sperm is responsible for taking care of your kid... LOL
 

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You can't undo the breeding, and I'm glad to know that you're helping to find the pups good homes, but please, in the future...don't do this again...get your dog neutered.
I think this would be a great note to end this on.
 

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i am just amazed at how you responded to the post fran. maybe im just butting in where i shouldnt.... but at least she isnt putting them in a dumpster some place or causing them any harm. hey, you know what-- by "bad mouthing" one person isnt going to help matters of overpopulation in the long run. and yes there are many dogs that need homes but hey accidents happen just like with people....

there i said my bit.. take it or leave it.


* And to candy -good luck placing the pups-- if i was allowed one more id take one but my boyfriend would get a bit mad at me.... my 4 already hog the bed enough. : )
 
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Whitedobelover said:
oh crap... it is like this... the females owners wanted to breed their dog and it is her responsibility to find owners for the puppies if she doesnt it isnt the males owners fault.. LOL.. .that would be like you going and having an implant done to have a kid and you thinking that the man that was the original owner of the sperm is responsible for taking care of your kid... LOL

Exactly but she has stepped up as the owner of the male and she did find good homes for the pups. That speaks volumes to me about Candy and her responsibility. I also have communicated to her through several PM's and I can say I am honoured to have Candy as a friend, she has a hugh kind heart and I appreciate that.
 

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oh crap... it is like this... the females owners wanted to breed their dog and it is her responsibility to find owners for the puppies if she doesnt it isnt the males owners fault.. LOL.. .that would be like you going and having an implant done to have a kid and you thinking that the man that was the original owner of the sperm is responsible for taking care of your kid... LOL

That's total BS. It's not like her dog took the female by mistake, she STUDDED him. You want a fair comparison? It would be like some guy having unprotected sex with an irresponsible 16 year old, getting her pregnant and refusing to assume responsibility for the children. It's his RESPONSIBILITY to take care of the children, maybe not in laws, but morally.

So please stop the whole 'it's really good from you to take responsibility', she should have taken responsibility by chosing a RESPONSIBLE female owner in the first place. What she's doing is just the responsible thing, not something incredibly noble, especially if the owner of the female is a friend. Hopefully it's because she realizes she made a mistake, and she wants to make up for it.

Or would you find it natural for someone to stud their male dog, especially not tested, to a friend's female, then just lets the friend take care of placing the puppies to irresponsible owners? Well, I don't. Unless they're just in for the money of course, and then it's pretty much a scam when the dog isn't even show quality anyway.

Haileysmom, I don't care much when it's an accident. It happens, although, like people, it's really easy to avoid, so I'm not ever going to feel sorry for someone who got 'accidently pregnant'. But in this case, it was done on purpose. Did you read the thread?
 

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Exactly the bitch wasn't artificially imseminated with some unknown donor sperm!

If you have a male dog that's intact and he escapes your property to find a female in heat on someone elses property and they tie up and a pregnancy occurs, Don't you think that the owner of the male is just as responsible as the females owner for the cost of things to come??!!!

But this was not accidental breeding it was planned, and there were only 2 pups that had homes ready for them, candy and her friend. Like I said before I hope she does find good homes for the dogs and those owners have them fixed to prevent situations such as these from happening on down the road.
 
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Exactly the bitch wasn't artificially imseminated with some unknown donor sperm!

If you have a male dog that's intact and he escapes your property to find a female in heat on someone elses property and they tie up and a pregnancy occurs, Don't you think that the owner of the male is just as responsible as the females owner for the cost of things to come??!!!

But this wss not accidental breeding it was planned, and there were only 2 pups that had homes ready for them, candy and her friend. Like I said before I hope she does find good homes for the dogs and those owners have them fixed to prevent situations such as these from happening on down the road.


The female owner wanted puppies, period. Candy supplied a male and was very responsible trying to help find homes. BTW all the puppies have found homes no thanks to this forum. Stop saying that the dogs were not health tested, you do not know if they were or not, she never told us. If you had seriously been interested in a puppy and in being a help she would have told you, but other wise it is none of your business. Why should she share anything when she was vicious attacked after posting. She found homes for the pups and as faras she is concerned good homes. Also Yorkies usually have 2-4 pups a litter and she had pre homed 2 to me that is very responsible. How was she suppose to prehome all of them not knowing how many would be born? Give it up, what is done is done and she has found homes and responsible too. If you have a personal ax to grind move it to PM's because I see serious issues here and not surrounding the puppies and the breeding! Time to move on there is no issue here and if you feel so strongly about it and you dislike Candy so much there is a handy little ignore function here that you could use.
 

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The female owner wanted puppies, period. Candy supplied a male and was very responsible trying to help find homes. BTW all the puppies have found homes no thanks to this forum. Stop saying that the dogs were not health tested, you do not know if they were or not, she never told us. If you had seriously been interested in a puppy and in being a help she would have told you, but other wise it is none of your business. Why should she share anything when she was vicious attacked after posting. She found homes for the pups and as faras she is concerned good homes. Also Yorkies usually have 2-4 pups a litter and she had pre homed 2 to me that is very responsible. How was she suppose to prehome all of them not knowing how many would be born? Give it up, what is done is done and she has found homes and responsible too. If you have a personal ax to grind move it to PM's because I see serious issues here and not surrounding the puppies and the breeding! Time to move on there is no issue here and if you feel so strongly about it and you dislike Candy so much there is a handy little ignore function here that you could use.

I disagree. It's our business as a dog forum to try to make our best to prevent irresponsible breeding. You can't just let everyone be irresponsible by saying 'what is done is done', and helping them with whatever situation they put themselves into. . By acting this way, you're just making sure it's going to happen again, because they will NEVER learn. We're saying the dogs were not health tested because she's been ignoring the question, so it's safe to assume so.

Honestly Yuck, you keep telling us the same thing, and you're definitely not doing anything to stop the post either by posting all the time. So, move on, too, if you want us to. I've said what I had to personally, and nothing is ever going to change my opinion.
 
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Fran27 said:
I disagree. It's our business as a dog forum to try to make our best to prevent irresponsible breeding. You can't just let everyone be irresponsible by saying 'what is done is done', and helping them with whatever situation they put themselves into. . By acting this way, you're just making sure it's going to happen again, because they will NEVER learn. We're saying the dogs were not health tested because she's been ignoring the question, so it's safe to assume so.

Honestly Yuck, you keep telling us the same thing, and you're definitely not doing anything to stop the post either by posting all the time. So, move on, too, if you want us to. I've said what I had to personally, and nothing is ever going to change my opinion.

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