Prized Show Dog Poisoned At Show?

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  1. CrystalGSD

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    I found this on another dog forum, and it is sad that this poor dog died, regardless of the situation. This whole post is copied from another person on another dog forum, so please ignore any mistakes/typos.

    http://gma.yahoo.com/westminster-dog-show-competitor-poisoned-021241960--abc-news-pets.html

    Here's the article itself, for anyone who doesn't feel like using the link.
    But be warned, it is long:

     
  2. Red Chrome

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    I know this dog. It really affected the Sammie world. My friend was supposed to use him on her bitch.
     
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    While it is incredibly tragic, I'm shocked that they didn't explore the possible causes before cremating the dog. A breeder friend of mine lost a dog suddenly a couple of weeks ago, and made sure to find the answer, since it could affect her breeding program.

    I don't know, I'd be expecting to see more dogs sick/dying if it was intentional poisoning.
     
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    I have to agree. I don't know what the reasoning is, but a necropsy should have been performed before cremating. It could be anything. I have my doubts that it was intentional poisoning.
     
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    This! If I thought my dog was poisoned I would want to find out by what!
     
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    My thoughts as well. I know that if that had been one of my dogs, I'd have had a full necropsy and tox screen done, if for no other reason than my own peace of mind, but more importantly like you said in case it was something potentially inheritable that I'd want to know was in my lines.
     
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    The whole thing is a tragedy, but to walk around accusing folks of poisoning or failed security etc. then opt to NOT do a necropsy is quite a contradiction in behavior. Especially considering how much money had to be spent to campaign the dog to Westminster, etc.,...to pass on a necropsy when foul play is suspected seems strange at best.
     
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    There are other things besides cancer and rat poison that can cause vomiting blood. HGE being just one. Years ago my late Ginger had some sort of mystery ailment that caused her to vomit the most horrendous amount of blood and clots in copious quantities. Testing never pinpointed the issue (it may have been some duck jerky treats, but they were never on a recall list) other than it being an infection. Frightening, though. It never said anything about other bruising on the dog, or petechiation, which I'd expect to see if it were far enough along to allow vomiting of blood were rat poison involved. I'm really surprised that they did not do a necropsy. It's extremely sad, but to throw out poisoning and then do no testing seems foolish, at best.

    Although, I can say that people blame poisoning for almost every dog ail. I don't think it applies in this case, but I cannot count how many vomiting Parvo pups we have brought in because 'the neighbor must have poisoned him!"
     
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    ITA It's rather unfair for them to come public saying their dog was poisoned at WKC when they have absolutely no idea what the dog actually died from. I can't imagine why they wouldn't have had further testing done and a necropsy. I'm really, really sad that the dog died and feel for the owners. It just seems very irresponsible to go to the media with this story and not have facts on the cause of death.
     
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    Unfair and deceiving. They don't know whether the dog was even poisoned, much less the location. It'd be one thing to know their dog was poisoned and, by process of elimination on where he's been the last few days, speculate that it was at Westminster...but they are just guessing from the word go.
     
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    I agree completely. Especially since there are other possible causes, saying 'Oh someone poisoned my dog' seems a bit, for lack of better term, risky. More so considering there was no looking into what happened before the dog got cremated. But I'm extremely sad that a dog died. :(
     
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    How sad...

    Without a necropsy their claims are just hot air though...
     
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    This.

    Something doesn't quite ring true.
     
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    I know the owner and can say I find some of these comments highly offensive. She lost her dog to something horrible. Leave it at that. I can say, it was confirmed poisoning. Gotta love media articles that leave out details.
     
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    Do you know why did they not have a necropsy done if they suspect poison?


    Where ANY tests done ?
     
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    There's "knowing" it's poisoning and then there's knowing it's poisoning. If you're going to make a public accusation about something malicious that happened at a public venue, personally I think it behooves you to gather as much tangible proof as possible. It's very sad that the dog died and I don't think anyone is saying they didn't, but obviously not getting the necropsy done leaves the door open to suspicions about motive.
     
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    so there was a necropsy done and there's a tox report to see?
     
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    Does anyone know if they can pinpoint on a tox screening? Or the cost of it?

    A few years ago a friend lost a pup and it was suspected to be poison and we took her body to the University for testing and necropsy. At that time (if my memory serves me right) they told her that it would cost thousands to do tox screening and which poison it might be and that was a big IF.
    We brought the pup home to be buried with a huge vet bill and no answers. That was about 10 yrs ago, is the testing better now?
     
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    There was no necropsy done. You don't have to do a necropsy to figure cause of death when the vet confirmed poison of some sort.

    Ado, my understanding la that the precise testing is still lacking with no concrete answers and lot of money. Sometimes when sure answers aren't available even with testing, it's best to let your best friend rest in peace.

    But please, everyone continue bashing this woman for making a decision she felt best at the time.
     
  20. OwnedByBCs

    OwnedByBCs Will Creep For Sheep

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    As far as I know (this dog lived in Colorado, and his owners are friends of friends), this dog DID have a necropsy and they found rat poisoning in his system. They believe it was done at Westminster because of the timing.

    From this article, I can see where you all got these ideas, but the real story is different.
     

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