Please send good thoughts to my dogs, I'm terrified.
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I literally had a bedroom in a front closet once that two 50lb Border Collies and a 8lb mutt shared with me. It was actually incredibly cozy but it clearly encouraged us to spend a lot more time outside.
Different strokes. If a dog isn't being neglected, it may not be how I personally would house them but that doesn't make that person a horrible dog owner. It's all in the finer details
Different strokes. If a dog isn't being neglected, it may not be how I personally would house them but that doesn't make that person a horrible dog owner. It's all in the finer details
Not commenting on the OP now, but I had to say something.
1. When I was growing up we had an outside dog. Who lived outside 24/7 for her whole life except on really cold nights. Who lived to be 14. I had no choice in the matter, to my parents dogs belonged outside. Oreo lived a decent life imo - not perfect, but she was happy and well cared for. Outside =/= neglected.
2. When I was out of town recently my dogs, GASP, stayed outside in kennel runs by themselves for a weekend. We had a petsitter come by 3 times/day to exercise and check on them and they were happy as could be. Again outside =/= neglect.
3. Finding a safe kennel for a bite risk dog *can* be very difficult depending on your location. Here and in my hometown I have had a hard time finding a kennel that can safely contain escape artists and is ok with intact females (not in heat, just intact), let alone one that I would trust with a bite risk dog. The lack of appropriate boarding kennels in my home town is *why* my dogs were kenneled while I was out of town recently - it was waaaay safer for them than being kenneled at a place with untopped runs, leash walks in unfenced areas for exercise, and a facility with a single 4' perimeter fence between the boarding dogs and a 4-6 lane highway.
1. When I was growing up we had an outside dog. Who lived outside 24/7 for her whole life except on really cold nights. Who lived to be 14. I had no choice in the matter, to my parents dogs belonged outside. Oreo lived a decent life imo - not perfect, but she was happy and well cared for. Outside =/= neglected.
2. When I was out of town recently my dogs, GASP, stayed outside in kennel runs by themselves for a weekend. We had a petsitter come by 3 times/day to exercise and check on them and they were happy as could be. Again outside =/= neglect.
3. Finding a safe kennel for a bite risk dog *can* be very difficult depending on your location. Here and in my hometown I have had a hard time finding a kennel that can safely contain escape artists and is ok with intact females (not in heat, just intact), let alone one that I would trust with a bite risk dog. The lack of appropriate boarding kennels in my home town is *why* my dogs were kenneled while I was out of town recently - it was waaaay safer for them than being kenneled at a place with untopped runs, leash walks in unfenced areas for exercise, and a facility with a single 4' perimeter fence between the boarding dogs and a 4-6 lane highway.
I totally agree that dogs can be kept outside and be well cared for. What I fail to understand is getting a PET who’s going to spend their life outside. To me that is a total contradiction. Unless you live in a yurt or something and you spend 20 out of 24 hours outside too, what is the point in having a dog as a companion if the dog is never allowed inside?
My main concern is the zip line. A dog that bites on a zip line? What if she gets tangled. Can she reach her shelter? Everydof that I have know. Who used one often got tangles in it. Friend who is the one dog is ok with and won't bite does not live at the house.
What if a big storm comes through, what if it gets hot, cold, etc.?
What if a big storm comes through, what if it gets hot, cold, etc.?
IME runners/ziplines if placed correctly rarely tangle. We used one for a while until we got a fence up for Maggie and as long as we kept the line area free of brush we were tangle free. Our neighbors have their cocker on one all day, every day and I've never seen him tangled since his line area is clear. Similarly, a well placed dog house with a flap door can be easily accessed by a dog on a runner/zipline and will take care of the shelter issue in bad weather.
When I was growing up my parents used to always leave the large dogs outside when we went away on weekend trips and someone would come and feed them during the day and when we went on week long trips we had someone let the dogs out in the morning and put them inside at night. And we lived on a farm, so no fenced yard.
Last summer my parents left for the long weekend and my brother and I both had to leave, my parents just decided to leave the dogs outside all weekend, and of course we had someone check on the dogs a few times during the day and make sure they had food and water.
Not the most ideal, and I never would leave my dogs in that situation, but it happens
Last summer my parents left for the long weekend and my brother and I both had to leave, my parents just decided to leave the dogs outside all weekend, and of course we had someone check on the dogs a few times during the day and make sure they had food and water.
Not the most ideal, and I never would leave my dogs in that situation, but it happens
Hope your dogs are safe
Yes, I do! Thankfully my parents wouldn't leave Harleigh outside though, they love her <3 I do think that there is a problem with leaving your dogs outside when you go on vacation, but that is just me. If my parents (or other family members I have) weren't willing to watch her, I would definitely be looking into boarding facilities.
Yes, I do! Thankfully my parents wouldn't leave Harleigh outside though, they love her <3 I do think that there is a problem with leaving your dogs outside when you go on vacation, but that is just me. If my parents (or other family members I have) weren't willing to watch her, I would definitely be looking into boarding facilities.
Being inside, away from strangers roaming, controlling the environment, and installing safety barriers is the right way to do it. Outside dogs have so many variables, fearful dogs should not have to experience above a limited number of variables for safety sake.
I've both owned and boarded as well as trained with fearful dogs. Leaving them without safe barriers is asking for more trouble.
Outside dogs are not really the issue for me as much as unstable, fearful or overtly aggressive dogs being outside without supervision. I don't know why you'd ask for trouble when it can be avoided.
I've both owned and boarded as well as trained with fearful dogs. Leaving them without safe barriers is asking for more trouble.
Outside dogs are not really the issue for me as much as unstable, fearful or overtly aggressive dogs being outside without supervision. I don't know why you'd ask for trouble when it can be avoided.
ok, now I'm awake.
First, I did not feel comfortable boarding her when she'd be freaking out, why would I want to do that to her? Maybe I have a retarded view on things but I'd prefer my dog to be comfortable, fed, watered and looked after by some one she loves and doesn't want to bite. A kennel situation would have stressed the hell out of her. The zipline is is set up properly so she can't hurt herself. She has plenty of water. She has a proper dog house that is nice and warm and covered from the rain. She did not get taken for walks due to her issues but she got play time with toys.
Also, let me clear up who was looking after her, it was a very trusted friend. My smart brother is now looking after them since mum didn't want my friend at the house, just in case. My friend was at the house the whole time so if anything happened to Serenity, my friend was there to help her out.
It is my mums choice the dogs are outside, she does not like inside dogs. Her house, her rules. They are allowed inside my room so they are not purely outside dogs! They even have the option to come and go as they please when I'm in my room and well, shocking but they seem to want to be outside more then inside.
Personally, if I wasn't so concerned this could possibly happen again, I'd have no problem leaving them at home while on vacation. A week of outside where she'll be happy or a week where she'll be stressed? Thats an easy answer.
I thought I made the right choice and if this hadn't happened, I'd still be fine because I'd go back and my dogs would be happily waiting for me. I didn't not board them because I was worried about cost, I didn't board them for Serenity's sake. Call me irresponsible or whatever you'd like to call me but I think I made the right call for her, I just didn't plan for this.
First, I did not feel comfortable boarding her when she'd be freaking out, why would I want to do that to her? Maybe I have a retarded view on things but I'd prefer my dog to be comfortable, fed, watered and looked after by some one she loves and doesn't want to bite. A kennel situation would have stressed the hell out of her. The zipline is is set up properly so she can't hurt herself. She has plenty of water. She has a proper dog house that is nice and warm and covered from the rain. She did not get taken for walks due to her issues but she got play time with toys.
Also, let me clear up who was looking after her, it was a very trusted friend. My smart brother is now looking after them since mum didn't want my friend at the house, just in case. My friend was at the house the whole time so if anything happened to Serenity, my friend was there to help her out.
It is my mums choice the dogs are outside, she does not like inside dogs. Her house, her rules. They are allowed inside my room so they are not purely outside dogs! They even have the option to come and go as they please when I'm in my room and well, shocking but they seem to want to be outside more then inside.
Personally, if I wasn't so concerned this could possibly happen again, I'd have no problem leaving them at home while on vacation. A week of outside where she'll be happy or a week where she'll be stressed? Thats an easy answer.
I thought I made the right choice and if this hadn't happened, I'd still be fine because I'd go back and my dogs would be happily waiting for me. I didn't not board them because I was worried about cost, I didn't board them for Serenity's sake. Call me irresponsible or whatever you'd like to call me but I think I made the right call for her, I just didn't plan for this.
Oh, he's sitting outside all day and sleeping outside? Then by all means they're being properly protected and supervised.
I don't have that kind of time though so when I can't actively supervise my dogs I keep them behind safe barriers such as house walls or kennel runs with lids, you know under lock and key, to do my best to ensure there isn't the chance of some doofus wandering into my yard and getting in over their heads with my dogs.
I don't have that kind of time though so when I can't actively supervise my dogs I keep them behind safe barriers such as house walls or kennel runs with lids, you know under lock and key, to do my best to ensure there isn't the chance of some doofus wandering into my yard and getting in over their heads with my dogs.
Ok sorry I was on my cell all day and I dropped it so typing is a pain.
My main thing isn't the dogs are outside. My main thing isn't that she went on vacation.
My main thing is she has described a situation where her dogs really should not be there. She says she thinks they are good now. Raids don't just pop up and disappear. If there really was a REAL threat of it I don't see it just going away and getting better. She says she has a responsible friend that could get them. EVEN IF it has gotten better I'd still 100% want my dogs out of there. After all this there SHOULD NOT be a let's wait and see and hope attitude. If she has the means to get her dogs out and to a safe place she should be doing that.
1. Also for me I haven't seen anyone accuse her of anything since the first people in this thread were told to leave other forum stuff off of here. If I accused her of anything it was being irresponsible.
2. I do live with my dad. Yoshi is an inside dog but I wouldn't let her roam my house. She knows how to open doors/the fridge/cabinets. If I couldn't take her with me and I couldn't find someone who is 100% trustworthy with Yoshi and is in a situation I'm comfortable with I don't go. I've missed out on two fully paid week long cruises that my grandparents have paid for. My entire family plus my brothers girlfriend and some friends went free. I didn't go. This summer a week before my birthday in July my entire family is leaving to spend an entire week and a half at the lake totally paid for by my grandparents again. I'm not going. I couldn't find anyone who could watch Yoshi that I trusted their situation and them enough to leave for a week and a half.
I get living with parents does include certain rules when it comes to pets for some people. But she is 20. This isn't a child who's family is going on vacation and they have absolutely no say in it. This is an adult who decided to go have fun and leave her dogs in a bad situation.
You can say it's a good situation all you want. But an aggressive dog with no one home all day with only someone coming by to feed/water the dog is not a good situation there are a LOT of things that can go wrong here. This thread is an example of stuff that can go wrong. Not only that her brother who she doesn't trust anyway has been hanging around there. I won't even leave Yoshi with a few of my friends because I don't trust their kids to not feed her weird crap. She left her dog with minimal supervision in a place her brother frequents enough to warrant a possible raid on her house and even though she says she has a friend who can get her dogs and get them to a safe place she isn't going to do it because 'she thinks it's safe'. I don't know where you guys are from but where I am situations that warrant raids don't pop up and disappear in 24 hours.
If you really think this is an ideal situation thank GOD you are on Chaz because you definitely have a lot to learn.
My main thing isn't the dogs are outside. My main thing isn't that she went on vacation.
My main thing is she has described a situation where her dogs really should not be there. She says she thinks they are good now. Raids don't just pop up and disappear. If there really was a REAL threat of it I don't see it just going away and getting better. She says she has a responsible friend that could get them. EVEN IF it has gotten better I'd still 100% want my dogs out of there. After all this there SHOULD NOT be a let's wait and see and hope attitude. If she has the means to get her dogs out and to a safe place she should be doing that.
1. Also for me I haven't seen anyone accuse her of anything since the first people in this thread were told to leave other forum stuff off of here. If I accused her of anything it was being irresponsible.
2. I do live with my dad. Yoshi is an inside dog but I wouldn't let her roam my house. She knows how to open doors/the fridge/cabinets. If I couldn't take her with me and I couldn't find someone who is 100% trustworthy with Yoshi and is in a situation I'm comfortable with I don't go. I've missed out on two fully paid week long cruises that my grandparents have paid for. My entire family plus my brothers girlfriend and some friends went free. I didn't go. This summer a week before my birthday in July my entire family is leaving to spend an entire week and a half at the lake totally paid for by my grandparents again. I'm not going. I couldn't find anyone who could watch Yoshi that I trusted their situation and them enough to leave for a week and a half.
I get living with parents does include certain rules when it comes to pets for some people. But she is 20. This isn't a child who's family is going on vacation and they have absolutely no say in it. This is an adult who decided to go have fun and leave her dogs in a bad situation.
You can say it's a good situation all you want. But an aggressive dog with no one home all day with only someone coming by to feed/water the dog is not a good situation there are a LOT of things that can go wrong here. This thread is an example of stuff that can go wrong. Not only that her brother who she doesn't trust anyway has been hanging around there. I won't even leave Yoshi with a few of my friends because I don't trust their kids to not feed her weird crap. She left her dog with minimal supervision in a place her brother frequents enough to warrant a possible raid on her house and even though she says she has a friend who can get her dogs and get them to a safe place she isn't going to do it because 'she thinks it's safe'. I don't know where you guys are from but where I am situations that warrant raids don't pop up and disappear in 24 hours.
If you really think this is an ideal situation thank GOD you are on Chaz because you definitely have a lot to learn.