Pit Bull Pamphlet!

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Saje said:
The reason for that most of the time is because a reporter asks someone what kind of dog it was and they say it was pitbull. Ever looked at how many 'pitbulls' there are in pounds? Apparently TONS. Anything with a bully looked is labeled pitbull. Reporters report what there sources say and if their sources say it was a pitbull that's what they report. Yes there are many forms of media that blow that out of proportion but that's how it gets started.

If I am writing a story about a horse at a rodeo and someone tells me it's a quarter horse well that's what I'm going to put in the paper. People need to stop using the media as a scapegoat. Yes it is a big problem and it can/should be handled differently in many, many situations but for the most part that's not where it gets started. Education is key.

I'm sorry but there is no way you can pass a lab (maybe a mix) off as a pitt bull. In this case the media knew that it was a lab and it was a mistake when someone slipped and said something. I do blame the media for a lot of this ban the pitt crap. If there was no publicity no one would know what a pitt was. Yes, the reporters can talk and interview people but its up to their discretion to actually add that factor into the piece. I never listen to people's word of mouth. If I do not see it with my own eyes they its irrelevent to me. There has to be many times where reporters ask what kind of dog attacked and people have said Golden or a Border Collie but they CHOOSE not to add that in the story because they feel it really isn't relevant but as soon as someone says pit bull, there all over that story. Its all a bunch of crap. It does start with the owners of "fighting" pitts but the media drags it out. They could just stop it, nip it in the bud, but they choose not to. They may not cause the pitts to attack but they are not helping the situation. There is no need to stress the Pit Bull factor, no more than theres a need to stress the Lab, Golden, or Collie factor. It is totally irrelevant what breed was involved.


Amstaff: I totally agree with you. 60 people out of millions and millions of people is nothing. And there are so many other things to be worried about then pit bull attacks.
 

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Tonight our news had two teenagers charged for having their pitts fight.... no it wasn't a pitt bull area... just 2 punks fighting their dogs !! Seems if it's not guns , it's poor dogs ! Luckily someone noticed the injuries of both dogs and reported it .
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THATS HORRIBLE good thing it was reported!!! Stupid kids!
 

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I'm sorry but there is no way you can pass a lab (maybe a mix) off as a pitt bull. .
I think you deeply under estimate the stupidity of some people. My brother had a yellow lab that was about 90lbs and muscled. Several people in the area would ask him about his "Pitbull". His lab had papers and was definately not a mix.

To you and I (and 99% of the people on this board) the difference is obivous but some people really don't know the difference. Do some media people say Pit Bull to juice up a story...Heck ya but some people are truly ignorance to dog breeds.
 
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I think you deeply under estimate the stupidity of some people. My brother had a yellow lab that was about 90lbs and muscled. Several people in the area would ask him about his "Pitbull". His lab had papers and was definately not a mix.

To you and I (and 99% of the people on this board) the difference is obivous but some people really don't know the difference. Do some media people say Pit Bull to juice up a story...Heck ya but some people are truly ignorance to dog breeds.

I understand that people are not familiar with their dog breeds but if a dog attacks they assume it was a pit bull because apparently thats the only breed that bites (hope you sense my sarcasism). If the breed is unfamiliar to you, you shouldn't just say, "oh it had to have been a pitt" and not really know what type of dog it is. If you are not positive what type of breed (which is really irrelevant in the situation) then just say unknown. Assuming it was a Pitt is just like assuming a black guy stole your car. No one was for sure who stole the car but assumed he was black. The breed has no revelance in the attack because all dogs are individuals.
 
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I have never read a more true statement!!

I can't stand when people stereotype things. Everyone is different from another person. Its like against the law to discriminate against a certain race for example,but you can disctimininate against dogs. My definition for the government is controdiction. They say one thing then turn around and say something else. If they want no discrimination they cannot discriminate against ANYTHING. If they want the prejudice in this world to stop, they need to stop. It is not ok to discriminate against one thing but forbid it for something else.
 

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I am not racist about humans or dogs.... it's all about statistics....
I know so many good white, black, asian, etc.... pit bull, rotts, dobes...etc..

And, unfort. I had to come across the bad ones too...

But it is the people who make the difference, in any case.

I am not about to make this a political stance, but I am white and just had to rescue 2 dogs from a white trash trailor family.... it comes in all colors and breeds...
 
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I am not racist about humans or dogs.... it's all about statistics....
I know so many good white, black, asian, etc.... pit bull, rotts, dobes...etc..

And, unfort. I had to come across the bad ones too...

But it is the people who make the difference, in any case.

I am not about to make this a political stance, but I am white and just had to rescue 2 dogs from a white trash trailor family.... it comes in all colors and breeds...

Just because statictics say you are more likely to get robbed by a black man than a white man (just an example) would you feel ALL black males are bad. Statictics is taking one gorup of things and comparing it to another. I'm just saying that just because its a pitt does not make it bad. There are so many dogs with different personalities and cannot be put into one group.

I've noticed the bad always takes over. Because of all the "bad" pitts who attack you rarely hear about good pitt bull stories, so the public gets the idea that all pitts are bad. Like with me when I was younger, my brother used to get in trouble alot and if I did something good it was rarely recognized because my mother always had to deal with his behavior problems.

I do not agree with the statictics and believe that they are greatly flawed. Statictics were made to show percentages and the pitt bull stats does not say that 100% of pitts are bad. If it did say that then I could understand the want to ban pitts but its not 100%, I don't think any stats can gurantee 100% of what they are promoting. All the dogs are individuals and should not be seen as one category instead of as individuals.
 

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I'm sorry but there is no way you can pass a lab (maybe a mix) off as a pitt bull. In this case the media knew that it was a lab and it was a mistake when someone slipped and said something. I do blame the media for a lot of this ban the pitt crap. If there was no publicity no one would know what a pitt was. Yes, the reporters can talk and interview people but its up to their discretion to actually add that factor into the piece. I never listen to people's word of mouth. If I do not see it with my own eyes they its irrelevent to me. There has to be many times where reporters ask what kind of dog attacked and people have said Golden or a Border Collie but they CHOOSE not to add that in the story because they feel it really isn't relevant but as soon as someone says pit bull, there all over that story. Its all a bunch of crap. It does start with the owners of "fighting" pitts but the media drags it out. They could just stop it, nip it in the bud, but they choose not to. They may not cause the pitts to attack but they are not helping the situation. There is no need to stress the Pit Bull factor, no more than theres a need to stress the Lab, Golden, or Collie factor. It is totally irrelevant what breed was involved.
Obviously you don't understand the media at all. And even if you disagree with what I said before you can't deny the fact that that's what sells. That's what people want to see/read. Put the blame where it needs to be - on irresponsible people. :rolleyes:
 

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There was a black male staffie who was at handling class last night.

He atacked me. With kisses. LOL. Tail wgging tougnge out just wanting to be petted. He was such a cute "little Man"
 

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Just because statictics say you are more likely to get robbed by a black man than a white man (just an example) would you feel ALL black males are bad. Statictics is taking one gorup of things and comparing it to another. I'm just saying that just because its a pitt does not make it bad. .
I think stats on dog attacks reveal more about the quality of the people who are drawn to own certain breeds. The simple fact is a lot of idiots are drawn to Pit Bulls because they wish to become strong and powerful through their close proximity to a legendary dog. There are a lot of wonderful Pit Bull owners but as I drive through the city and see the countless abused and neglected pits with those sad faces I realize that most are really bad owners! :(
 
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Amstaffer said:
I think stats on dog attacks reveal more about the quality of the people who are drawn to own certain breeds. The simple fact is a lot of idiots are drawn to Pit Bulls because they wish to become strong and powerful through their close proximity to a legendary dog. There are a lot of wonderful Pit Bull owners but as I drive through the city and see the countless abused and neglected pits with those sad faces I realize that most are really bad owners! :(

I couldn't agree with you more. If all these "thugs" and "ganstas" would leave the pitts alone the "Pit Bull Problem" would definately decrease. But once the gov't bans pitts then they will move on to a different breed and corrupt that breed and the cycle will go on and on. Instead of ignoring the problem and kicking the pitts out, we need to find a solution to end the corruption of other breeds that will be affected by the BSL. If the gov't will open their eyes they would realize that this BSL is not going to solve the problem.
 
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Saje said:
Obviously you don't understand the media at all. And even if you disagree with what I said before you can't deny the fact that that's what sells. That's what people want to see/read. Put the blame where it needs to be - on irresponsible people. :rolleyes:

I understand the media: Making money off of bogus, embellished stories to draw the public in and ratings!!! Do you honestly think that its ok to exploit something just for money or ratings? I understand that the pit bull crap is what sells, but that doesn't make it right.
 

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they will move on to a different breed and corrupt that breed and the cycle will go on and on. .
Sorry to say they already are. I see a lot of Thugs and Wannbees switching to Bull Mastiffs and other Big Molossers breeds. Many of them are convinced Bigger and aggressive must be better. Plus many of those breeds are MUCH easier to make human aggressive.
 
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Sorry to say they already are. I see a lot of Thugs and Wannbees switching to Bull Mastiffs and other Big Molossers breeds. Many of them are convinced Bigger and aggressive must be better. Plus many of those breeds are MUCH easier to make human aggressive.
I've heard that those thugs now use dogs as a use of force instead of guns. There mentality is that if they get caught with a gun they go to jail for pocession, but they can intimidate anyone with a big agressive dog and nothing will happen to them. Its a shame that "man's best friend" who has always been by our side is now being used against us. These dogs are getting into the wrong hands and they are corrupting the dog species. Something needs to be done about this, its just pathetic.
 

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Wow!!!! Great idea I will translate the pamphlet if that dn't bother you to put around here!!!!
I love pitt bull!
I start knowing the breed once I meet a friend who had one till then I just fall in love with them!
I just can't get one yet because my family really had the typical pitt bull terror!
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I live in Ontario, Canada and genecide is currently going on right under our noses. Any pitbull in ontario must be spayed or neutered. Any pitbull born after October 8, 2005 WILL BE EUTHANIZED. NO IF ANDS OR BUTS. All "pitbulls" (i say this because there are no true specifics as to what a pitbull is, as mentioned it is all to the discretionary of the by law officer) are required to wear a muzzle in any public place. So, on walks, to the vets..anywhere except your own private property. They are required to be on leash at all times when in public places and are generally being labelled as vicious, agressive man and child eaters.
This is absolutely ridiculous. I own an 8 month old pit, as well as a 1.5 year old rott/dob, my girl would tear you open faster than my baby could cry and run away!!!! I've been out and active with my pup though, (with his muzzle on) trying to gain the support of my community. So far it's gone quite well. People of all ages who once had a sterotypical view of pitbulls have fallen in love with my baby.
Someone asked if it was true if in Ontario the pitbull law was being challenged. YES IT IS!!! We're all crossing our fingers and praying that it will be thrown out and a dangerous dog law will most likely be imposed. Hopefully they won't drag it out and we'll know within a week or two. Ruby Clayton, the lawyer chosen to represnt the pitbill owners/breeders cost $250,000 to retain, which local breeders and owners helped to raise with their own time. Let's all pray that this ridiculous law get's lifted in Canada and the genecide stops now!
 

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I like pit bulls. I'm not sure if I will ever have one but I have no problem against them. I think banning pit bulls did more harm than good because it will increase the number of poorly bred and raised ones becaus enow the only people breeding them will be the people who don't care about the law. the law doesn't get rid of all the pitbulls in the area, the only people who are going to listen to the pit bull banning law are the good people who wouldn't fight or raise a dog incorrectly so all thats left are the bad people who don't care about the law and they will make the problem worse. Its sad because I think pit bulls are generally very nice and cute.
 

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