Performance Pembroke Welsh Corgi breeders?

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  1. Paviche

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    I've seen multiple people, here and on other boards, that it's easier to find a working/sport Pembroke than Cardigan. I've found it difficult to find any Pembroke breeders that do more than just dabble in agility/herding though. I've found a few that have produced a handful of dogs that have obtained some high level titles but none that own the dogs themselves.

    Am I just not looking in the right places? Or is it just that Pemmies are, as a breed, more adept at performance events so even if the breeding stock isn't titled, there's a better chance of getting a good prospect? Does anyone have any breeder recommendations? I know we've got some corgi Chazzers!
     
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    I, and my fiance, have a Cardigan Corgi each. They do performance sports. Our breeder is not breeding for it though, he's a conformation breeder - they're failed hold-backs for conformation.
     
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    I don't know much about pembrokes, but there are a few Cardi breeders who breed for performance and conformation. The breeder that Chekhov came from doesn't specifically breed for performance, but he seems to have several performance prospects in every litter. Finding a drivey Cardi isn't too hard, I think what takes a little more work is finding one that isn't too heavy boned and has a little more leg (comparatively!).
     
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    When I was looking at Cardigans I found a few that breeders that either did both or a lot of their puppies did well in performance in their new homes.
     
  5. Paviche

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    Yeah, I've looked at both the Cardigan and the Pembroke (two entirely different breeds but both with traits I like) and I noticed that about the Cardis. I've actually spent a lot more time looking into them. The Pembroke is newer to me :)
     
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    Revy's breeder has had god luck with producing good performance dogs. Really versatile dogs with stable temperaments... not always easy to find in Pembrokes. ;)
     
  7. Paviche

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    Stability is (obviously) huge for me. From the time I've spent around Pems at work, I can see how it might be a delicate balance! Ice always thought Revy was gorgeous! Is her breeder still producing dogs? You can PM me if you'd like, I'd love to learn more.
     
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    A ton of Pembrokes I've met have temperament issues. It's sad that it's swiftly becoming the stereotype for Pembrokes... that they're cranky little a-holes. Revy is a talker, but she's a genuinely nice Pembroke that doesn't fly off the handle over anything. I actually remember Sara saying something about finally being able to meet a NICE Pembroke when we visited her last year! ;)
     
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    That seems to be how it goes these days. You either get the watered down sweet and lovey, fluffy stuffy *cough-fat* show dog. Or, you get the Royal snob. I have the latter. Yes his attitude has at times caused problems, but I do find him VERY well controlled and VERY "polite" with his tude'. He's very good at warning without escalating, but that is where his butt gets in trouble as people see a "vicious dog", I'm not going to say he's all talk though, he has quite a firm grip that's all I'll say.

    As for breeders, can't really help much, I have seen dogs from one who mostly competes in Agility with her own dogs, and sells to show home on the side, but I don't know much else as her dogs aren't really to my taste (small, light of frame, "Americanized heads", open coats...).
     
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    You might look for a corgi specialty that has performance events or better yet corgi nationals. I've met a number of pemmie breeders who were competing in herding, agility and obedience at the national.

    I'm out of the loop at the moment, so I can't really give you names of breeders, but they are out there.

    Also, yes, you are more likely to get a good performance dog out of poor breeding in pemmies than cardis, in large part simply because structurally pemmies are more suitable -- shorter back, straighter legs.


    That is very sad. I have never met one that was a "cranky little a-hole". Opinionated and snarky? Sure, love 'em for that. But stable nonetheless and really quite nice.
     
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    Ada was a cranky little a-hole.... **** poor temperament. Which is why she doesn't live here anymore. She took "snarky and opinionated" to a dangerous level, and when she started putting holes in sleeping dogs (and me) was when I told her she was done.

    Revy has been a dream compared to Ada. ;)
     
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    Yeah, that would be a bit much.

    Ares only puts holes in dogs that get in his face and don't leave when snarked at. And he hasn't ever actually put holes in me...really he hasn't...:cool:
     
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    I've heard of (and seen) some wonderful dogs come from Cibola in... TX I think it is?
     
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    I agree with this sentiment! :) I LOVE their sass. If you can't appreciate a dog with an attitude and laugh at their sassiness, Corgis are not for you!!!

    I don't expect any Corgi to be a friendly, passive little dog. They have to have BIG attitudes to be 12" from the ground and move bulls! It actually makes me sad when I see the ultra submissive, soft, skittish little Pembrokes... of course they are sweet dogs, but they aren't the way a Corgi should be. A Corgi should have a fire inside, but should also have a stable, cheerful temperament and good bite inhibition. Fozzie has sass and will tell off a 200 lb dog in a heartbeat, but he's the most rock-solid dog I've ever met and has never been in so much as a spat.

    Working at a pet hotel and encountering thousands of breeds over the years, I must say that hands-down Corgis are the most wonderful to work with. There were no Corgis who had to be "individual", all of them got along well with the other dogs, and did an amazing job keeping peace in the group and telling off the jerk dogs. I've never encountered a Corgi who so much as growled at me out of hundreds. They all LOVE me, and LOVE the other Corgi people. I swear they can sense who really loves them instantly. Or maybe it's because I hooked them all up with free ice creams. ;)

    I've met a lot more Cardigan breeders with working dogs, compared to Pembrokes. I know several Cardi breeders, and none of them do not prove their dogs on livestock before breeding them! Pemmies tend to either be pet bred or show bred. I know a Pemmie that can work and excels at agility from this breeder in MI. It is harder to find working breeders who also health test and such, but it's possible! My aunt in TX has 12 Pemmies on her Quarter Horse/cattle ranch, and occasionally has litters, but they're all reserved by friends way ahead of time. A lot of working breeders are like that and don't generally ship dogs or sell to non-working homes. But I'm sure they'd make an exception for an amazing home like yours.
     
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    Reviving this because I'm bored and I was browsing corgis online. I think at some point we might look for a corgi as an 'easy' dog (lol - having mals and acds really messes with your definitions of certain terms) so I figured I'd bookmark some places now and the Chaz thread came up on the google search. :)

    The linked breeder in MI doesn't appear to health test and her dogs are CKC registered (not a program I'd feel comfortable supporting personally) and I can't find any online presence for Cibola. Any other ideas?
     
  16. Emily

    Emily Rollin' with my bitches

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    *thumbs up* They are perfect for that IMO. Less demanding, you can tire them out quickly because short little legs, and they're so portable! lol I really hope you get a stumpy dog someday. :D
     
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    There is a breeder up here producing awesome, speedy, stable little corgis. I would steal one given the chance.
     
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    Could you pm me their name?
     
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    What I really want is a Z clone. ;) She's so awesome, but good luck finding another like her!

    This is waaaay off, especially since none of my dogs are allowed to age, but very likely since DH thinks that corgis and corgi mixes are teh awesome.
     
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    Laurelin I'm All Ears

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    Around here it seems like a 95% of the sports corgis are Cardis. I really like them a lot. Such funny dogs!
     

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