People are disturbing lately.. Graphic

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  1. crazedACD

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    And re the homeless guys...it said marijuana was found in his system. Would these tests be similar to drug tests where it really only detects it in the past 30 days, or is there something specific you can test to see if they were high when they died?

    I have never seen anyone 'go crazy' after smoking...they might attack a bag of cheetos, and then the couch.
     
  2. ihartgonzo

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    EWW. HORRIFYING!!! :( That poor poor puppy. That man should be put in an insane asylum... he is clearly a danger to all society.

    I smoked spice once, it was gross and it didn't have any affect on me. I didn't know what it was at first. My military friends smoke it when they're on leave, and they are the onlyyyy people I know who bother with it at all. Because weed is legal in California! From experience with many "cannibus patients", no, they wouldn't smoke spice when weed it legal. It's sold as a chemical replacement for weed that's horrible for you; while weed is medicinal and scientifically proven to help with a plethora of health issues. No one likes spice, they just settle for it, and it generally doesn't do anything. I can only imagine that people doing insane things on spice is the result of really messed up, concentrated spice and/or an already insane person using a crappy gas station "drug" as an excuse for their insanity. This is definitely a great argument for legalizing marijuana. No one has ever eaten a dog after smoking weed, not even with drastic munchies!

    I agree with you.

    Imo, weed is only a gateway to people who would end up doing harder drugs anyway. If weed did not exist, addicts would still be using meth, heroin, etc! Spice is specifically known as a weed replacement. It's very harmful to your lungs and health. The VAST majority of people would opt for weed over spice if it was legal, it has a more positive effect and it's safer. Again, nearly all of my friends -hundreds- have their cannibus card and are disgusted by spice... the ONLY people I know who smoke spice are in the military, because they get drug tested, and they all WISH they could smoke weed. Spice should be illegal. I don't know why it isn't. So should salvia honestly, way before weed.
     
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    Theres quite a few instances of telling a teenager they aren't allowed to do something and they want to do it. Make pot legal, it won't be forbidden, and they'll just go stronger. All 4 years of high school they did anonymous surveys about drug use (granted, only the first year I was in a school with a lot of drug users), and every year a good chunk of them answered with the answer of something like "It was something adults told you you can't do, it just made me want to do it" (I don't remember the wording used, the last one I did was in 2007, I just remember the jist of it)
     
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    RD Are you dead yet?

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    Jess, sorry, but I absolutely disagree with you. I do not think someone who has access to something like pot or booze is going to automatically go "eh that's boring" and seek out hard drugs.

    Also, this isn't just about kids in high school. How many high school kids do you know who do hard drugs? I only knew one... Yes, high school kids tend to smoke weed. Do you think they're smoking weed because it's illegal or because they like being high? If they were doing it because it's illegal, or for a thrill, why would they start with something like weed rather than going right to pills or meth or crack? Decent weed isn't exactly cheap.

    I don't know many kids who would go so far out of their way just to do something illegal, for the sake of breaking the law. Hell, when I was in my earlier years of high school I smoked cigarettes and thought I was living life on the edge, but if I didn't like cigarettes I never would've smoked them, legal or not.

    Quit giving all the credit to people telling these brainless teenagers not to do it and making it illegal, therefore making them want to do it; give the credit to the kids who use their own brains to make their own choices.
     
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    I hope I can make this come off as a serious question, because it is. As I've said, I accept that I will never really get why people do drugs, but that alone makes me more curious about the reasons. If you wouldn't be using it to alter your mood - why would you chose to use it? What other benefits does it provide to the healthy person?
     
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    Most healthy people do it because it's pleasant, relaxing, relieves pain/aches and has a similar effect that drinking a few margaritas or beers at the bar can. It can be a sort of social lubricant, or a creative muse. The added bonus is yeah, usually it does elevate your mood.
     
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    Keep in mind - even if weed was legal, it's not going to be legal for minors!!! You have to be 18+ to get a cannibus card. So yes teenagers will still feel the thrill of doing something illegal. :)

    First, I don't consider marijuana a drug. It's a plant.

    It does alter your mood. Just like laughing alters your mood. Or a caffeinated beverage. And so on. Marijuana varies a lot between strains and indica vs sativa and it affects different people in different ways. Generally, it is relaxing and makes you feel cheerful, giggly and social. My friends and I make the BEST inside jokes when we smoke weed together hands down. ;) It does enhance creativeness and has a mild psychadelic affect but without having a skewed perception of the world. It's like a DSLR camera versus a disposable camera. It can make things appear more vivid, colorful, bright and beautiful - but realistically. You don't see elephants riding unicycles or anything like that! It relieves nausea and headaches, helps with anxiety, and makes everything more entertaining. It's amazing when paired with 3D movies! Alcohol has a much more intense, all-over, impairing affect than weed does, even just a couple of drinks. It is impossible to "OD" from weed.

    LOL I like the term social lubricant...
     
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    Why is pot not both a plant and a drug? That's like saying "Alcohol isn't a drug, it's distilled plant matter." Well, no actually it's both-lol.

    I have never gotten the appeal of pot, so I can't answer that question. It astounds me that anyone would spend their money and risk the legal ramifications of being caught with the stuff.

    As far as alcohol goes, I do like that it relaxes me a bit especially in social situation. Honestly though, I get horrific hangovers and the older I get the less tolerant my body seems to be of alcohol, so I rarely drink anymore.

    There have been health benefits discovered in consuming moderate amounts of red wines and certain white wines and even beer.
     
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    If weed were legal, I would totally try it but I'm a chicken and don't want to risk getting caught. I rarely drank underage even just because I knew I'd get caught. And the first time I did drink, my mom kept calling me right after. I swear it was like she knew. ;)

    I do enjoy a few good drinks although nowadays I'm not supposed to with my medicines. :( It's not that I can't have a good time without it, I just enjoy it and me and my girlfriends had tons of fun when we drank a little. As long as someone is being safe, I don't see any harm. Now, one of my friends had a tendency to drink and do all sorts of stupid things and that's a totally different story. She should not have been drinking until she learned to behave herself and not be destructive.
     
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    THe group I hung with in highschool was definitely the druggie group. NOt one did it "because it was illegal". Most of it was for the experience. Yes, its a mood alterer, doesnt mean you rely on it to alter your mood all the time or that your mood is sad/depressed without it (unless you are talking addiction which is NOT the same). I never did hardcore as I never wanted to. I only smoked pot as I felt nice and relaxed on it, but I didnt really drink when I was younger as I didnt like the way it made me feel.

    Heck, a really good yoga or meditation can alter my mood for sure, or a glass of wine in the evening, or a bath, or sex, etc. Marijuana does have health benefits as well.
     
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    If you have any family history of bipolar or schizophrenia you shouldn't touch pot with a 30' pole. I can't go into detail on a public forum at this time, but it pretty much destroyed my family and put our lives in danger.

    And people absolutely can get addicted to it. I know that from first hand life experience (not me, but someone close to me).
     
  13. Kaydee

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    Not that I ever...inhaled or anything but I think it's almost laughable they suggest that even a bad imitation of marijuana or cocaine is going to make someone go stark raving nuts munching dogs and stuff.

    That was angel dust and even folks that party hearty tend to avoid dust for just that reason. Cocaine is not a good thing imitation or real but I don't think even a crackhead would try to eat a dog.

    i don't know from this new stuff incense and spice and all but the article sounds like "Reefer Madness", jus' sayin

    And yes, I absolutely think they should legalize it, alcohol has messed up alot more people than weed ever will. Everything in moderation:hail:
     
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    I'm afraid to open the link. Or even read the posts. That's all.:eek::rolleyes:
     
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    The thread's okay Dober, it just turned into an MJ debate thread. :p
     
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    {{{{Innnnhhhaaaallle}}} debate wha...who????Heeehheeeheee:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
     
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    Are you sure that's enough popcorn? :p
     
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    Similar to why people drink...just to get a little intoxicated, have fun. It does enhance things. I do like to drink here and there, but you know if you drink a little too much you end up sick and have a pounding headache in the morning..you can black out, eh. Weed isn't like that...you can get pretty high without nasty side effects.

    I don't do anything harder...I have, but most everything else is fairly addictive and I'm prone to addictive habits.
     
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    Who said weed is a gateway drug...? LOLOLOL.
     

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