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  1. puppydog

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    www.iolproperty.co.za/roller/news/entry/cape_by_law_orders_pet

    I actually have NO words for this?? What about breeders or show/sports people? Do I now live in a big brother country where my healthy, well cared for dogs are in danger of being impounded? What of all the township dogs roaming the streets being ignored while they spread disease?

    I am beyond furious now. Why doesn't this government concentrate on more pertinent issues relating to animal legislation?
     
  2. Psyfalcon

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    As a commenter posted, welcome to the rest of the world.

    Its been that way for most of the US for decades.
     
  3. JessLough

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    That. Not sure what the big deal is... either register your pets, or be prepared to face the consequences if you get caught.
     
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    I sort of understand why it was done...to have some leverage over animal hoarding situations...but coming from a family that owns multiple dogs, it really sucks to have a municipal tell you what you can have if they are healthy and happy. I really hate blanket laws. If I have the means to properly care for 8 dogs or 15 dogs or 30 dogs and keep them in compliance with registering and noise, I should be able to.

    I get a bit annoyed every year when I send in my animals' registrations. I keep them in compliance with rabies laws...shouldn't that be enough? They are charging me $8-10 per animal per year so they don't have to do the footwork to check rabies (and to make money for the town). The business performing the rabies jabs should forward the info to each town.
     
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    I actually like the idea of regulating pets, and in particular, registering dogs.

    There wasn't any system in place in Memphis, and the city was overrun with animals, dog fighters, and so on. Outside of Memphis, some places had limits, but they weren't enforced.

    But where I live now? If you live in the city, I'm pretty sure there is dog limit(mostly depending on the type of housing), and every dog has to be registered with a $20 fee/year type of thing. Stray dogs? Nada. Every dog has an owner, and that owner WILL get fined for loose dogs. Breeders have to have a license to operate(it's a year-by-year thing..so if you don't have a litter that year, no big deal), and they have to register their pups by 6 weeks. I'm pretty sure they are limited in breeding animals as well, since it is in town. After 6 months, I think the pups are "counted" in their limit. I believe big commercial kennels are banned to out-of-city limits. I'd have to look at it again, I can't remember the numbers or anything.

    But all in all, when enforced, it works. This area (minus out-of-city farm dogs, of course) isn't overrun and the shelter is pretty darn empty.
     
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    I don't see what the big deal is. It's been like that here forever. Breeders here generally apply for a kennel license and that's that. Hardly anyone gets turned down, even.

    Here's it's $15-$46 depending on if the dog is speutered/chipped/fenced. One town near me has $10 for altered dogs, $100 for intact dogs, per year.
     
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    What bothers me is they are once again turning their sights onto law abiding citizens and ignoring the real issues. No one is going to go into townships to regulate dog ownership.

    Its is purely a money making gambit. They also state that if you breed or show, move to a small holding. I'm sorry, I don't have the money for a small holding. My dogs are cared for and happy. Just try and take my dogs, there will be one heck of a fight on their hands!
     
  8. Blue_Dog

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    It's like that here too. Though to be honest it isn't often well enforced. I registered Sam this year for the first time because I wanted to take him to the dog park and I heard they sometimes have by-law officers come down doing random checks when they're bored I mean to keep everything enforced and such. I've had Sam for almost 3 years and was never bothered about him never being registered before. And Blue before him we had for almost 7 years and he wasn't registered either.

    It's more expensive to register an intact dog/cat too. And there are limits to how many you can have without the special permit or whatever it is. Not cool, but it's just the way it has been for years now.

    My city also require annual rabies shots too, I figured that was more important. :p
     
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    I don't see a problem with it really, although in some cases it would be better going on a case by case basis. I wish we had some sort of registration for dogs her in the UK, things certainly couldn't get much worse than they already are.
     
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    don't worry puppydog, you're not alone. It's nobody's business how many, what kind, intact or not or any other information about dogs I may or may not have.

    If I abuse them, they have laws for that. If I starve them, they have laws for that. If they are loose, they have laws for that. If they bite, they have laws for that. If they bark too much, damage property, kill other animals, become a nuisance, etc, guess what? They have laws for that.

    Other than that it doesn't do anything but generate some revenue. I haven't seen it do anything to stop hoarding, prevent free roaming dogs, stop nuisance barking, cut down on the number dogs in shelters or anything else.
     
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    We kinnda have somthing like that here as well. It was somthing I looked into in Sparwood. S/N dogs cost $15 a year to register andintact dogs cost $30 a year. I plan on registering my dogs in Sparwood since we will be living in town.

    I know right now my dogs and my parents dogs are not registered with the city, but I dont think they really enforce the Bylaw.
     
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    If I was legal about it, it'd be about $50 a dog. I feel strongly enough about it to tell the county to KMA as our licensing/reg fees don't go to AC or programs but the black hole that is the general fund. I live with the potential for a fine but oh well.
     
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    From the linked article.
    Umm i don't really see the issue. It doesn't seem to cost money to register your dogs with the town there unlike over here. Just register them, it's free. Then you won't have to risk the fine if they check (and usually they uphold the bylaw pretty good when they first come out with it).
     
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    Its not the fine, its the legal removal of the animals that I have an issue with.
     
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    Actually, they are charging for additional dogs. This is going to cause a massive spike in dumping of dogs (which it did when they just suggested the by law) and when people don't register them, which they won't, they rake in the money.

    It grinds my goat because I work in the forefront of pro bono vet care. Let's rather sort out those that refuse to care for their dogs!
     
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    Care to link where you're reading this? From what it sounds like in that link and on the Cape Town website is that you just have to submit a form to request permission to have more animals but that's it, no fees, since they want to encourage people to license their pets.

    Are you even currently breeding? Or is this "outrage" more of a "i just want to be able to whenever i want" type thing?
     
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    I filled out my application form and received a response email saying "please note this does not serve as permission to keep additional pets. You will be notified of costs involved once we have reviewed your forms"

    What I am outraged about is as follows: I don't appreciate my government having a say in how many animals I have, what they are and how I keep them. By all means enforce animal cruelty laws. I am all for that and will gladly submit to inspection on that.

    I don't think the government has any right to limit my choices on my pets or tell me that they will or will not allow me to keep the ones I already have.

    I don't think they have a right to impound my animals just because they are not on "their list".

    They WILL not have township dogs registered nor will they try. They will not enforce the law to those who constantly fly below the radar of the law. Its for law abiding citizens only.

    I am more then happy to register my animals, no problem there, but do not threaten my animals. Don't evem try!
     
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    I hate it as well, and understand you....

    I don't think it's always done fur the right reasons and they hassle the wrong people in my area, and turn blind eye to the puppy mill/ horse mill/ bird mill up the road!

    Here they (at least a few years ago) also had a rule you could not even apply for a kennel license unless your breed was KC registered and you could prove it... Again all the while turning a blind eye to above mill!!!
     
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    Exactly! If I thought these laws applied to everyone I wouldn't have a problem with it at all!

    I also don't see why I need to apply for permission to breed my dogs.
     
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    Dogs are licensed here too, but IF there are any laws about breeder licenses here, they are by county, not statewide. I don't think there are though. I know they don't go around knocking on doors or anything, the licensing law is only enforced if they are called out for something else. They'll tack it on to the list of charges.

    I agree with you puppydog, they shouldn't be able to tell you what kind of dogs you can have, how many, or if you can breed them. I know many of us on this forum feel the same about that, that's why we oppose MSN and BSL so vehemently. I HATE pet limit laws. Hate hate hate them!! FOHA has two dogs right now that were owner surrenders and the ONLY reason they were surrendered is because the county told the woman she was over the pet limit. That STUPID law put two additional dogs in the system that had a perfectly good home. Those dogs stressed and barked and gnashed their teeth at us for two weeks before they finally settled down. I can actually pet them now, and they lick me and wag their tails.
     

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