OMFG...NOT what you wanna see in your neighborhood!!

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Could be why she isn't moving out of the area. She may have gone into labor in a place she didn't intend to get stuck in and is now improvising. Maybe a male moved into her territory.
 

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There is plenty of Goats to snack on around here.

I just got word there are 2 of them. A female and a male. The male is confirmed killed actually right near my house and the female is on the prowl still.
 

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That's sucks, cougars are way scary. I've been stalked by several and seen them down by Rochester (wa). One followed my canoe along the bank of the black river for a mile and a half while I paddled as fast as I could back to the dock. It was right out in the open and about 10 feet away from me, and kept looking at the canoe like it was deciding whether it wanted to try jumping or not. Ugh.

Definitely don't like hiking without a dog now. At least with dogs you usually see them if they're there.

If there's two of them that would explain all the kills. There was one cougar that really did a number on Northwest Trek wildlife park several years ago. The folks running it said it set back their dall sheep breeding program years.
 

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There have been an abnormal amount of kills. They are in my neighborhood and that is scary. It saddens me that they have to be killed BUT it's my dogs' and families lives at risk with these cats out prowling around. While I don't like to see them shot, it is what has to be done. Wildlife says you can not relocate them successfully.
 

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Found out both are still on the loose.
Ahhh nuu! :(

It's unusual that there's a female. The way it was explained to me, it's usually young males moving into inhabited areas because the big old toms will tolerate as many females as their territory can possibly support. I wonder if this means the population's starting to get out of hand. The two they found in Discovery Park (downtown Seattle) were both young males.
 

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too late in the year, cubs should be out w/ her learning the ropes
Agree. If she had cubs, they would be out trailing her and learning this time of year.

I live in an area populated with cougars and bears. Bears are protected, but cougars can be shot at any time. Sightings are rare, though. But to be honest, I don't know if it's because of hunting or because we have a ridiculous amount of empty land in this region and human settlements are very sparse.
 

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Ahhh nuu! :(

It's unusual that there's a female. The way it was explained to me, it's usually young males moving into inhabited areas because the big old toms will tolerate as many females as their territory can possibly support. I wonder if this means the population's starting to get out of hand. The two they found in Discovery Park (downtown Seattle) were both young males.
relatively uncontrolled wolves are putting pressure on the cats & throwing off the existing territories.
 

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also important to point out you live in a state where they are hunted. as i said before that has a way of making them avoid people in general.
From what I understand, there is no evidence to suggest that they are aware they're being hunted...that hunting them doesn't make them avoid people more. Typically, they do avoid people because they're shy. But there have been those times where they've attacked pets and humans. But it's so rare. Only about 10 fatal attacks on humans have been reported since the 1890's. But about half have been in the last 10 years or so. They do seem to be getting bolder as humans live closer to their territories. Both human and cougar populations are growing and so naturally, the odds go up.

They are hunted in this state, but no hounds are allowed to be used.

too late in the year, cubs should be out w/ her learning the ropes
Well...cubs stay with their mother for a year...year and a half, sometimes even two years before they go make their own way, so she could have cubs with her.
 
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Ahhh nuu! :(

It's unusual that there's a female. The way it was explained to me, it's usually young males moving into inhabited areas because the big old toms will tolerate as many females as their territory can possibly support. I wonder if this means the population's starting to get out of hand. The two they found in Discovery Park (downtown Seattle) were both young males.
Part of that might be because females home ranges are vastly smaller in area than male territories. And males are very territorial while females are not. The males' territories will often over lap female home ranges. Males in neighboring territories are usually unrelated and they tend to want to avoid other territories, which keeps conflicts down. (of course, that doesn't always happen) These male territories can be very, very large and over-lap human habitat as well. That's why we're seeing more and more cougar attacks in just the last few years I suspect. But as far as humans being natural or typical prey, prey recognition is a learned behavior so typically humans aren't a part of their diet, as are deer, rodents and so forth.

This bit about their territories is why it's unsuccessful usually to re-locate them. The fish and game could plunk a cougar in the middle of another male cougar's territory unknowingly and cause a big ruckus between them. They will get very aggressive when one is in another's territory. So, the new comer might well leave and return to the area where it was caught. Relocating bears is also next to impossible...they can take them away miles and miles and they'll return to the same area every time.

I'll bet depending on where everyone lives, there have been cougars watching you when out on a hike or camping somewhere. I am quite certain that the places I use to hike in regularly had cougars around and aware of my presence.:eek: They just didn't go after me...luckily for me. lol.
 

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relatively uncontrolled wolves are putting pressure on the cats & throwing off the existing territories.
There aren't any wolves yet on this side of the mountains though. I think we only have 8 packs now? They're on the other side of the state, and Fish and Game just decimated the wedge pack last week thanks to one idiot rancher who refused to follow their protocol for grazing on public land (none of the other ranchers in the vicinity that followed their rules had any wolf related losses).
 

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