okay so waht is the best dogs food out there?

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what is the most healthy dog food? what should i feed my rottweirs . they are two years old. no iams! they test on animals and cut out there vocie boxs. so other than iams. what is the best dog food to feed dogs? :confused:
 

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Iams isn't good anyways, despite the animal testing. I starting my puppy on that and changed him as soon as his bag was over. Most people here will tell you that Innova and Eagle Pack are really good foods. I feed both to my dogs. My husky gets Innova and my two puppies get the Eagle Pack large breed puppy formula. They may be a little harder to find but if you go to their websites they have a locater to tell you the closest places you can buy their product. Other than those two people here will also suggest a raw diet, which I am not too sure of because I have never fed it to any of my dogs so that I wouldn't know about. The only thing I know about the raw diet is what people say here and that's like the best that you can give your dog, if you do your homework on it first.
 

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spudy said:
what is the most healthy dog food? what should i feed my rottweirs . they are two years old. no iams! they test on animals and cut out there vocie boxs. so other than iams. what is the best dog food to feed dogs? :confused:
I have tried all the foods mentioned and I have found the best results with Flint River Ranch.

www.corgilover.com/page2.html
 

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I didn't know that one... But that's funny how they say it's the best food on the market when the main ingredient is chicken meal, then wheat flour... A shame really. It's definitely not as good as Innova (i don't know Eagle Pack).

(and this should be in the dog food forum btw ;) )
 
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Flint River is a quality food, and Chaz uses it for his Shelties, but the members need to be aware that there may be an ulterior motive for the posts - all of which - as of this posting time - revolve around food . . .

Gotta watch out for you all - part of being a mod ;)
 
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The difference is, Romney, you've actually been a participant in the forums, not just popped in and made three posts directly related to something you are selling . . .

Flint River is, as far as I know, a good quality food. There is no one food that is best for every dog - I do think the EVO comes closer than most - but it is great that there are more and more viable choices available now. I had valid nutritional reasons for choosing the Innova product line for my big dogs; the Flint River didn't have quite the optimum range of ingredients for mine that Innova did.
 

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I agree flint river is best. You can find them on my site too :)
http://www.puppypassport.com
It's definitely not the best. Compare the ingredients to Innova, and you will see the difference. Unless you think that chicken meal is better than chicken?

It's decent food, like royal canin or nutro, but there's definitely better out there. I'm not American, and I'm amazed that it's allowed to flat out lie to sell a product here.

But ok, Renee said it more politely than I did :p
 

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Unless you think that chicken meal is better than chicken?
actually, in a dry food you'd generally want a meat in meal form (chicken meal, lamb meal, etc.), simply because fresh meat still contains a lot of water. ingredients are listed in order by descending weight before processing, so the meat with water content will lose around 75% of its weight once the food is processed, effectively moving the meat down several positions on the list.

on the other hand, fresh meat only goes through one processing step instead of two, so ideally a food has both fresh meats and meals - such as innova does for example.

however, if i had to choose between two foods of otherwise equal quality, and one only had fresh meat listed as protein sources and the other only meats in meal forms, i'd pick the one with the meals because it has a higher meat content and less grain.
 

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Thanks Mordy, that's good to know! I'm so glad we have you around here, I've learned so much about dog foods...

My main problem with that food was that there is no meat except meal, as compared to Innova that has both.


Flint river ranch adult :

INGREDIENTS: Chicken Meal, Whole Wheat Flour, Ground Rice, Lamb Meal, Poultry Fat (Preserved with Tocopherols and Ascorbic Acid), Ground Whole Wheat, Flax Seed, Dried Whole Egg, Lecithin, Fish Meal, Brewers Dried Yeast, Wheat Germ Meal, Dried Kelp, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Salt, Potassium Chloride, Monosodium Phosphate, Choline Chloride, Ferrous Sulfate, DL-Alpha Tocopherol Acetate (Source of Vitamin E), Zinc Oxide, Sodium Selenite, Manganous Oxide, Riboflavin Supplement (Vitamin B2), Copper Sulphate, Amino Acid Chelates of Zinc, Iron, Manganese, Copper and Cobalt, Niacin, Ascorbic Acid (Source of Vitamin C), Vitamin B12 Supplement, Vitamin A Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, D-Biotin Supplement, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride (Source of Vitamin B6), Calcium Iodate, Thiamine Mononitrate, Folic Acid, Vitamin D3 Supplement.


Innova (adult)


Turkey
Chicken
Chicken Meal
Ground Barley
Ground Brown Rice
Potatoes
Natural Flavors
Ground White Rice
Chicken Fat
Herring
Apples
Carrots
Cottage Cheese
Sunflower Oil
Alfalfa Sprouts
Egg
Garlic
Taurine
Vitamins/Minerals
Viable Naturally Occurring Microorganisms


No comparison...
 

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no, no comparison at all. i've addressed some of the issues with FRR food in another thread as well.
 

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I've been feeding Sawyer Iams Chunks just about the whole time I've had him; I tried feeding him Nutro Natural,not to be confused, apparently, with Nutro Max Natural Diet (I think this is what his foster mom had been feeding him) and he wouldn't touch it unless he was desperately hungry and/or I mixed in a raw egg. He did terrible on it and started exhibiting all the signs of a bad diet. So I tried mixing in a bit of Iams and he nosed out all the Nutro and went strictly for the Chunks.

All that info is leading up to this question: is it possible to get a sample of Innova to see if he will eat it before going and buying a whole bag of it? I don't know if Sawyer is terribly picky or what, but I'm on a pretty tight budget. I want to do the best by my dog but if he won't eat the food, it could be the fountain of youth and it wouldn't matter.
 

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All that info is leading up to this question: is it possible to get a sample of Innova to see if he will eat it before going and buying a whole bag of it?
absolutely! :) most pet food manufacturers will be happy to send you a sample.

you can email natura at [email protected] and ask. if you are on a tight budget, you can also check if any of your local pet or feed stores carry healthwise ( which is natura's "economy" line) or would be willing to special order it for you. it's made from the same high quality ingredients.
 
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how does chicken soup stack up against innove? trying to choose between the 2. I dont mean chicken soup like campbells chicken soup. chicken soup the brand of dog food.
 

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well from what I have heard about it (I've just asked about this too). It's ok food, it's not the best, but it's better than pedigree or Iams or any type you'd find in a regular supermarket. I feed my puppy the chicken soup for the puppy lover's soul and she LOVES it. Chicken soup and pedigree are the only two canned products that I can get my pup to eat and I like mixing it in with her kibble to give her a little extra moisture.
 

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chicken soup is a food is a "rip off" product that was specifically made to look very similar to the innova formulation on paper. quality wise it doesn't even come close tho.

that being said, it is a much better alternative to popular mainstream brands like science diet, nutro, iams, eukanuba and definitely all grocery store/mass retailer products, but it doesn't measure up to the really high end foods.
 

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yeah well it's the only canned food I can get my girl to eat besides Pedigree and it's better than pedigree. I like adding the canned food into her kibble and if that's the canned food she likes than that's what she gets. I feed her a high quality kibble (Eagle Pack) so it's not like I'm feed her a diet of nothing but crap!
 

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