ohhh Oakley, hahah!

[Tankstar]

Since when? A quiet neighbourhood, and it being legal to have dogs off-lead, is fine. If you can trust your dog, and know the risks are low, what's the problem?
Of course, it does depend where you live. Some countries have this as against the law, but where I live heaps of people do this, it's legal, and it's fine.

I think it is rude for people to walk there dogs with out a leash. period. Some people do not like dogs, some people dont want dogs on there property. Some dogs do not get along. For the saftey and hapiness of neighboors it is only respectable to keep a dog on leash be it a 2lbs chi or a 150lbs mastiff. My dog is great offleash and great with a recal, great with hand signals to keep him behind me. Yet I am still nice enough to keep him on leash. To many dangers with other animals and pesticides on lawns for me to want to risk anything with my bo. there is fields, woods, trails, dog parks, lakes ect that are safe places to take dogs. Why chance it on a street?

 

[Lizmo]

No worries, I've done the same thing Hope your week gets better.

 

[J's crew]

Unless she had Oakley on a VERY short lead he would have still gotten into that yard, so a leash would not have averted this situation.

Well in that case she knows now that he needs to be on a very short lead, right?

 

[SarahFish]

I think it is rude for people to walk there dogs with out a leash. period. Some people do not like dogs, some people dont want dogs on there property. Some dogs do not get along. For the saftey and hapiness of neighboors it is only respectable to keep a dog on leash be it a 2lbs chi or a 150lbs mastiff. My dog is great offleash and great with a recal, great with hand signals to keep him behind me. Yet I am still nice enough to keep him on leash. To many dangers with other animals and pesticides on lawns for me to want to risk anything with my bo. there is fields, woods, trails, dog parks, lakes ect that are safe places to take dogs. Why chance it on a street?

No, if you can trust your dog, and you are sensible, then you will get your dog to return to you if you see people coming, just general courtesy.
And you say a neighbourhood is dangerous because of other animals and pestisides, but surely there are animals out of neighbourhoods and suburbs too, and there are also other dangerous things out there, poisonous plants, lakes, holes etc. Pretty much everything can be dangerous if we go into it too much, LIFE is dangerous, let's allow our dogs to take a few risks, like we do.

 

[Tankstar]

No, if you can trust your dog, and you are sensible, then you will get your dog to return to you if you see people coming, just general courtesy.
And you say a neighbourhood is dangerous because of other animals and pestisides, but surely there are animals out of neighbourhoods and suburbs too, and there are also other dangerous things out there, poisonous plants, lakes, holes etc. Pretty much everything can be dangerous if we go into it too much, LIFE is dangerous, let's allow our dogs to take a few risks, like we do.

I trust my dog 100%, you cant trust some random persons dog. Dogs are dogs, they are not push button put in a code and volia what you want them to be. they still have minds of there own, even the most obident dogs have off days and may not listen. I just respect my neighboors not to let my dog run free around the neighboorhood. I understand some people dont like dogs and dont like them on their property. We have leash laws here and I would like to stay on the good side of the law with my dog, as it is now he is already on the bad side for barking (which it isnt him. but some lovley neighboor says it is and he is never allowed inside haha, funn y since he is inside when ever he wants) Sorry but I just think it is rude to let your dog offleash in places like a neighboorhood.

 

[Dizzy]

Why rude? I can understand... irresponsible, but it's not rude.

I wouldn't walk Bodhi off lead on a roadside. But I don't think it's RUDE if someone does. I don't take offence. It's their choice.

I hate to see KIDS walking by roadsides, but I don't think it's rude. It's worrying, but it's not my child, so unless it is in immediate danger - I just keep walking. Ditto to dogs on streets.

Dreeza knows her dog FAR FAR more than you or I will ever second guessing the coulda, shoulda, woulda's.

 

[Tankstar]

Why rude? I can understand... irresponsible, but it's not rude.

I wouldn't walk Bodhi off lead on a roadside. But I don't think it's RUDE if someone does. I don't take offence. It's their choice.

I hate to see KIDS walking by roadsides, but I don't think it's rude. It's worrying, but it's not my child, so unless it is in immediate danger - I just keep walking. Ditto to dogs on streets.

Dreeza knows her dog FAR FAR more than you or I will ever second guessing the coulda, shoulda, woulda's.

I think it is rude in a neighboorhood setting. As not every one is a dog person, and no one wants to have dogs all over their lawn/property. I just dont see why to let a dog offleash in a neighboorhood and why it is so hard to just put a leash on them. I adore dogs obviously. But I hate walking by a person with a dog not on leash. Dogs will run up and sniff you ect. People in my neighboorhood are veryyy non dog friendly and would just have a **** fit if I let blaze go beside me, he is very well trained and reliable.

ETD we have leash laws. So I think not abiding by them, atleast in the neighboorhoods and such is rude. much like I think it is rude to drive with a cellhpone, or rude to cut some one off one the road. There are laws for all those too.

 

[ACooper]

Wow What a crazy thread.

I agree with Blues point. I can ATTEST to the fact that this incident could happen with a leashed dog PERIOD. It happened to Phoebe shortly after she was adopted. She hung herself right over a fence and the lead was only a 6 foot leash. It can all happen very quick and I don't care WHO you are..........it CAN happen to you.

Glad it all turned out ok Dreeza, I hope it taught Mr. Oakley a little lesson too, LOL

 

[PappiLuv]

PappiLuv, your post was fantastic.

Thank you!

 

[Dreeza]

alright, i'm not about to post in response to everyone..but for the few things that I can remember wanting to respond to:

Do you KNOW where I live? No.

Rude to walk off leash?? to WHO? The maybe, MAYBE ONE single person I might see across the street 3 blocks ahead of me?? When I *DO* see someone that I will cross paths with I ALWAYS call Oakley to my side so he walks next to me.

And for all of you who save your "off leash" time for safe fenced in areas, where you have acreages for your dogs to runs, swamps/fields etc. Well aren't your dogs just lucky then.

Once again. Do you know where I live? If you can tell me of a place where I can safely take Oakley to run off leash, I will GLADLY do so. Just try to find a place within reasonable distance. Have fun with that.

And also, maybe I didn't explain the scenario well enough...but I wasn't completely aware of the drop/wall/etc. I wish I had taken a pic...I havent walked by that house in at least a month...so its just a vague awareness, and with everything all white, it wasn't really obvious...heck, I was sitting there telling Oakley to "come" and it wasn't until I really looked over and realized that there was no way in heck he could jump back outta there.

It was one of those fluke incidents that he happened to end up in someone's yard...YES, it COULD have ended bad...but it did NOT. Whatever, all my friends and family thought it was funny.

And Tankstar...nice assuming that I let Oakley run all over everyone's property


This is stupid. I need to go to bed.

Thanks to all the people who were able to laugh with me

 

[Tankstar]

Rude to walk off leash?? to WHO? The maybe, MAYBE ONE single person I might see across the street 3 blocks ahead of me?? When I *DO* see someone that I will cross paths with I ALWAYS call Oakley to my side so he walks next to me.

And Tankstar...nice assuming that I let Oakley run all over everyone's property

Yup it is rude. ou never know how others are thinking. The may not say it, but it IS rude to let a dog walk all over some ones yard.
And to assume? No I didnt assume, I read what you said, he jumped some ones back yard. Please excuse me if I am wrong, but normally around here back yards are about 4 feet away from side walks *It goes grasee, then a fence) so to say he isnt all over some ones yard is silly IMO, becuase (like I said atleast here, so I do apoligize if it is differnt here.) he is obviously all over sme ones yard to beable to jump a fence. thi dog needs a leash. No dog under complete control should beable to just run off. You say he is in great control, obviously not if he was able to hop a fence

 

[blue]

Wow I think Tank might be more tanked than I am. If Oakley was on a leash he still would have gone over that fence.

Now if Oakley was owned by Foxywench, who has a six sense for what her dogs are going to do in a chipmonk related incident, obviously it wouldnt have happend because Oakley would have been on a flexylead.

Even on a short lead like I use with my dogs, I would have been dragged at least onto the wall if only 1 of my dogs jumped over. If both chased Alvin over that wall I would have gone with them, and Im a big fella.

[EDIT]FWIW, Elegy Im 260# and a 30# Bluedawg did this to me when he was still a pup.

[/EDIT]

 

[oc_spirit]

I just saw this thread now and all I can say is WOW!

Dreeza, I'm laughing with you, that is a funny story! I can just picture the look of bewilderment on Oakley's face!

To everyone else, my dogs live the life of fence or leash. Bieng Huskies I just cant trust them 100% not to take off. Nothing pleases them more than the act of running. But had I been the one in Dreeza's place I would have had 2 dogs in the same situation as Oakley except that my two were MORE at risk for hurting themselves BECAUSE of the leash. Oakly having been offleash had all the room he needed to adjust for the sudden fall and manoever the way he needed to as he fell. My guys would have been on a 6ft leash which means they would have fallen but before they stopped tumbling from the fall they would have suddenly gotten jerked up by the neck from the leash becoming taught. This gives more chance of them getting hurt than the way Oakley fell. This is of course, if I was close enough to the fence that they would have reached the ground at all. Being a 5ft fence and my leash 6ft. Lets say I was 4ft away from the fence (given Tank's standards of what distance a fence is from the sidewalk - where I would be walking) that means that there is only 2ft of leash left to go on the other side of the drift/fence. meaning there is still 3ft till the ground leaving my dog suspended by the neck.

Just some food for thought

 

[blue]

I just saw this thread now and all I can say is WOW!

Dreeza, I'm laughing with you, that is a funny story! I can just picture the look of bewilderment on Oakley's face!

To everyone else, my dogs live the life of fence or leash. Bieng Huskies I just cant trust them 100% not to take off. Nothing pleases them more than the act of running. But had I been the one in Dreeza's place I would have had 2 dogs in the same situation as Oakley except that my two were MORE at risk for hurting themselves BECAUSE of the leash. Oakly having been offleash had all the room he needed to adjust for the sudden fall and manoever the way he needed to as he fell. My guys would have been on a 6ft leash which means they would have fallen but before they stopped tumbling from the fall they would have suddenly gotten jerked up by the neck from the leash becoming taught. This gives more chance of them getting hurt than the way Oakley fell. This is of course, if I was close enough to the fence that they would have reached the ground at all. Being a 5ft fence and my leash 6ft. Lets say I was 4ft away from the fence (given Tank's standards of what distance a fence is from the sidewalk - where I would be walking) that means that there is only 2ft of leash left to go on the other side of the drift/fence. meaning there is still 3ft till the ground leaving my dog suspended by the neck.

Just some food for thought

Maybe they'll get it with your description.

 

[Babyblue5290]

Stupid question.

What exactly is a drift fence?

 

[blue]

Its not a drift fence, its a snow drift, up against a fence.

 

[Babyblue5290]

Its not a drift fence, its a snow drift, up against a fence.

oops sorry read it wrong lol Thanks for clearing that up for me.

 

[Ilyena]

I can see the fun side of the story and I realize the dangers of that dog being kept on leash when falling but on the other hand there is almost nothing I hate more than dog owners who let their dogs off-leash in a neighborhood. I don't care how well trained the dog is, what breed it is, or how close to the owner it is. I am a dog person but if I see an unleashed dog walking the streets, it has happened that I've called the cops because firstly it is illegal and secondly there is no way for me to know by first glance that an unknown dog is friendly and obedient nor its tolerance to stressful situations. So in my eyes it's just plain rude to have a dog off-leash in a populated area. Just my two cents.

 

[RD]

Dreeza, you're lucky that it ended the way it did.

Yes, a leash is important. But I don't often use one when walking my dog through the local neighborhoods. I certainly keep one handy for when we're walking through the high-traffic areas but otherwise, she's off-lead but still very much under control. Training is like an invisible leash, so is being pro-active. I don't let her chase anything during our our walks through residential areas. Letting a high-drive dog chase a squirrel near a road is just BEGGING for trouble. It wasn't the lack of leash that was the issue to me, it was allowing him to chase. If he's so high drive that he can't be called off from chasing a squirrel no matter how much training is done, then I agree he should be leashed at all times when he leaves a safely fenced area.

Dreeza, you should be more careful with him. If you want to walk him off-lead, please consider teaching him a good solid recall command before taking him in an unfenced area. The whole situation you described could've been averted if he had a recall and you said "Oakley, here" as soon as he started off after the squirrel.

All that being said, I think she realizes **** well that her dog could've been seriously hurt or killed in this situation. I have been in situations in which I could've been (and was) hurt in accidents and I laugh about it now. Chill out, people.

 

[GipsyQueen]

How is it rude to walk your dog off leash if you put him/her into a heal when someone walks past you, or hold them if they can't go into heal? There are people who have there dog on leash and let them hop all over people with their leash on. IMO I would much rather walk past a well behaved off-leash dog than a misbehaved dog on a leash. If no ones around while your dog is off leash, then how the heck is it rude? Maybe I think differently because here in Germany almost everyone walks their dog off leash - many even in the neighborhood! Gipsy is aloud off leash in our neighborhood because there arn't any cars or people walking around and she is always aloud off leash when we hit the field and the forest, its never bothered anyone.