% of stuff in dog foods

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  1. Dekka

    Dekka Just try me..

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    I have noticed there is confusion as to what this percentage is out of.

    When a dog food label reads 24% protein.. thats 24% of what. I was sure it was either volume or weight. So I emailed some dog food companies. Iams was the promptest and most polite.

    Thats great.. but still what is it out of? (its not hard to be confused)

    Now this is different from how human foods are rated... it takes some getting used too.

    But this does mean that if you were to add the same amount of water and add it to kibble that is in a raw diet your 24% protein is now likely closer to 12%.

    So for those of you who were wondering.. there you go :)
     
  2. drmom777

    drmom777 Bloody but Unbowed

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    Thanks Dekka. I assume this is at least in part because of our conversation in chat the other day. I think this is a really stupid way to do it....but then, I know the companies aren't interested in conveying information, but rather in obscuring it.
     
  3. Dekka

    Dekka Just try me..

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    It was the convo with you that inspired me to fire off a few emails :)

    But people have been confused about this before too. LOL now I can argue more authoritatively when people go on about stuff they know nothing about [​IMG]
     
  4. corgipower

    corgipower Tweleve Enthusiest

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    That is if you measure it after adding water. The amount of food I feed is measured before adding water. The water is there just to add moisture. So they still get the same protein content in their food, regardless of how much water I add to it.

    One thing to consider also is when reading labels, you need to consider the moisture content ~

     
  5. Dekka

    Dekka Just try me..

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    No when one is comparing a raw diet to a kibble diet. A raw diet as is is ~25% protein. Yippy say people looking at their dog food bags. My dog food says 24% protein!

    But if equal out the moisture content to equal the raw then you get about 12% protein in the kibble. If you match the moisture content to the kibble then you get ~50% protein in the raw...

    (raw being whole prey model)

    So its good to know when discussing comparisons.
     
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    Awwww...awesome that you really took the time emailing some dog food companies. :) Thanks for this info. I, myself, didn't know what those % values blah blah are all about. Now I know it pertains to the volume.
     
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    I am so confused...

    Are you talking about raw diet or kibble? Or dehydrated? Where do you get a bag of raw? What food are you looking at?
     
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    Yeah, I was following you until this post....

    THe kibble says 24% protein, but there is 10% moisture.... so if you take the moisture out you'll have more than 24% protein, right?

    And why do you measure water when you're talking about a raw diet? Water does not need to be measured out like the other ingredients (protein, grains, etc.), so it shouldn't be a factor in the percentages, right?
     
  9. Lizmo

    Lizmo Water Junkie

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    ^^^ Add me to that confused group from that post.

    You've got me interested now, though :p
     
  10. Dekka

    Dekka Just try me..

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    Raw has a very high moisture content. If you dry it out so it is the same as raw then it is much higher proportionally in protein when determined by volume.

    If you were to make the kibble the same % of moisture as normal raw.. then take the % of protein by volume it will be significantly less than the label reads.

    This is really only of interest when trying to compare raw/kibble/wet foods. This is why orijen and evo look to have more protein in them than a raw food diet. Really they don't and are about on par.
     
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    Ahh gotcha.

    Well, that's where the formula I posted is useful. :)
     
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    Dekka Just try me..

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    It was very useful.
     
  13. jess2416

    jess2416 Who woulda thought

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    IM so confused.....

    lol
     
  14. Dekka

    Dekka Just try me..

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    Iz ok Jess

    (so have you heard back yet?)


    :p
     
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    jess2416 Who woulda thought

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    (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO)

    Im going to call tomorrow

    -back to the regularly scheduled thread now
     
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  17. Dekka

    Dekka Just try me..

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    I checked out mostly chicken.. but you also have to do organ meats and stuff which are much higher moisture than muscle...

    AND you can't compare human food as they don't do % by volume its usually % of calories.
     

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