"Not treating dogs like children"

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  1. M&M's Mommy

    M&M's Mommy Owned by 3 mutts

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    What does that mean??

    I love the 3Ms like I would love my kids, and I think I'm treating them like one, too? I mean I provide for them, train/discipline them, comfort & protect them, tend to their needs, bathe them, feed them, play with them, etc.. everything I would have done to my kids.

    But I'm pretty sure I've heard many of you say that while you love your dogs to death, you don't treat them like children, so I'm curious what exactly do you mean by that?
     
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    To me, it means respecting that they ARE dogs, and have needs that are different than humans. They need different levels and types of exercise, stimulation, and socialization. Dogs are dogs, not humans of any type.
     
  3. dogsarebetter

    dogsarebetter EVIL SHELTIES!!!!

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    ^^^^agree with above^^^^
     
  4. darkchild16

    darkchild16 We are Home.

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    same as above
     
  5. Fran101

    Fran101 Resident fainting goat

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    The problem lies when people treat their dogs like SPOILED children lol in my opinion

    dogs are dogs, people are people.. crossing those lines, no matter how much you love your dog, sometimes leads to problems. especially because the way you treat, raise, and discipline a child is NOT the same as how you raise a dog.

    it has nothing to do with the amount of love but more how you interpret that love IMO
     
  6. Laurelin

    Laurelin I'm All Ears

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    I couldn't have said it any better myself.
     
  7. Lolas Dad

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    A child does not need to be taken outside to do his or her business.

    A child cannot be left home alone where as a dog can and actually quite good for them. If your dog is at your side 24/7 then it can wind up with SA.

    A child does not need to be taken to a groomer.

    A child is not brought to the vet for shots against rabies etc.

    Through out the dogs entire life we have to feed them. A child can get his own food when he is older.

    We do not pick up children's poop on a daily basis but we do for our dogs for their lifetime.

    You can't tell a child their whole life of when to sit or lay down where you can and do with a dog.

    A child does not listen to his parents when they become a teenager, a dog still does.

    A dog doesn't ask for money. Children always do.

    A child can borrow a parents car when they are old enough but we chauffeur our dogs.

    A child can eventually take his own bath, a dog never can and never will unless it is in mud. Then your hard pressed for your dog to not take a mud bath.

    A child does not sniff another childs butt. Dogs are always sniffing another dog's butt.

    So as you can see we really do not treat our dogs like children, we actually treat them better because our dogs have us trained to do so. :rofl1:
     
  8. Lizmo

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    In agreement with Boston's post, I think, also, when trying to make the right choice for a dog you have to realize that a dog is not a child. You would not rehome a child, but if might be the best for a dog. You would not put a child to sleep if it punchs/steals/acts aggressively with little hope of correcting the problem, but it might be the best for a dog.
     
  9. AllieMackie

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    I certainly to a degree treat Finnegan and the pets as my children, much like you mention, 3M. Especially since I don't really plan on children of my own, my pets get that doting attention that I would have given to a child. I dote very heavily on all of my pets.

    However, that doting attention is given in the form of training, ear scritches, games of fetch/tug/chase, etc. The attention that Finnegan and my other pets receive is catered to their species-specific wants/needs and to their well-being. I want them to be happy by doing the things they are meant to do.

    I think of the comment you're referring to and I think of people with purse puppies and crap like that. Dressing up your dog and taking it around like an accessory. Dogs are not meant for that.
     
  10. M&M's Mommy

    M&M's Mommy Owned by 3 mutts

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    Now, this does make sense. Maybe they were referring to dressing the dogs up, carrying them in purses, etc..

    Other than the fact that dogs don't talk back at you & don't cost as much money as a child, I think rasing a dog is just like raising a child!

    Thanks guys. I am no longer confused with regards to this subject :)
     
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    I refer to my dogs as my "kids" because they are the only thing that I will raise that comes close to having real, human children.

    That in no way means that I treat them like humans. They definitely have their own boundaries and limits and know that I am the boss. If they were treated like humans, they would think that they are in charge. Which would mean disaster!

    I think that most people who treat their dogs like humans, usually get walked all over by them. Ending up with picky eaters, seletive listeners, and stubborn learners.

    That does not mean that you treat your canine family members with disrespect or abuse in any shape or fashion. They deserve to be treated humanely in every way, and even getting spoiled here and there usually wont hurt ;)
     
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    Hey victor...you mean your not a people?;) Actually he behaves better then most of the humans I know.
     
  13. M&M's Mommy

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    Don't we teach our children the same thing??
     
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    A child does not need to be taken outside to do his or her business.

    no, but they need diapers changed and need to be shown how to use the toilet. Some people with little dogs use those pee pads inside and don't take them out.
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    A child cannot be left home alone where as a dog can and actually quite good for them. If your dog is at your side 24/7 then it can wind up with SA.

    Dogs and children mature at different ages. A dog that can be left alone at 1 year old for reasonable periods of time is about the same as letting a 10 year old come home after school for a couple hours until you get home from work.
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    A child does not need to be taken to a groomer.
    Kids don't need hair cuts? The barber or hair stylist is the human equivalent of the groomer. BTW I've never had to take any of my 3 dogs to a groomer.
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    A child is not brought to the vet for shots against rabies etc.
    No, but we take them to the doctor for shots for polio, measles, etc.
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    Through out the dogs entire life we have to feed them. A child can get his own food when he is older.
    Hmm. I'm still feeding my 21 year old daughter. She can get her own food but prefers what I cook. Meanwhile feral dogs seem to do ok with getting their own food.
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    We do not pick up children's poop on a daily basis but we do for our dogs for their lifetime.
    See the top post. And if you feed raw there is very little poop cleanup.
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    You can't tell a child their whole life of when to sit or lay down where you can and do with a dog.
    No, you can't tell a child when to sit or lay down, but you will be helping your child until the day you die. I never had to tell our older dog where and when to sit or lie down. She just knew.
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    A child does not listen to his parents when they become a teenager, a dog still does.
    You never had an 11 month old GSD pup did you? :)
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    A dog doesn't ask for money. Children always do.
    A dog doesn't need money. He'll ask you to play ball, give a treat or go outside. That is a dog's currency.
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    A child can borrow a parents car when they are old enough but we chauffeur our dogs.
    I think it's that opposable thumb thing and the ability to reason that sets us apart there.
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    A child can eventually take his own bath, a dog never can and never will unless it is in mud. Then your hard pressed for your dog to not take a mud bath.

    Again, the opposable thumb thing. But, my dogs love to play in the sprinkler or go swimming.
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    A child does not sniff another childs butt. Dogs are always sniffing another dog's butt.
    Your child says hello to their friends. That's all a dog is doing.
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    So as you can see we really do not treat our dogs like children, we actually treat them better because our dogs have us trained to do so. :rofl1:

    I think those were some pretty far fetched correlations. If anyone thinks that owning a dog is more work than raising a child, please, don't have children!
     
  16. Laurelin

    Laurelin I'm All Ears

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    Personally I think you can put clothes on your dogs, put them in strollers, etc etc and they can still be treated like dogs. I think some people take it too far on both extremes. Some people truly do spoil their dogs to the extent it negatively affects their behavior and they end up with a terror of a dog that has no boundaries and never gets to do doggy things. That's just not healthy. However, some people go the other way and assume if you dress your dog up, or let it sleep in your bed, or even keep it indoors according to some, then you're not treating a dog like a dog. It's a balance but dogs are definitely not children or furry people, which is something to remember.
     
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    Of course. But you use many of the same principles to raise dogs as well as children. That does not mean that you treat dogs like people.
     
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    This is very true. I put shirts, bandannas and doggles on Finn all the time. :p He needs none of those things, it's all aesthetics for my amusement. However, he's not bothered by them, and I never let the things I "do to him" interfere with him just being a dog. And yes, like you said, some people think of it more extremely. It's opinions, to a degree.
     
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    Then there are some people who literally take my original post a bit to seriously :rofl1: Lighten up it was meant as a joke. Have a nice day :D
     
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    That is the way Lola was when I adopted her. We made a few visits to the previous owner and she commented on our third visit that Lola was happier with me than when she was when she was with her. She treated Lola like she was a child and I treated Lola for what she is. That is a major difference.
     

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