not for beginners

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  1. Maxy24

    Maxy24 Active Member

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    What breeds would you say are definitely NOT for a person who has never owned a dog? You know dogs that need an owner who really knows dogs inside and out and can control them very well, Someone with experience.
     
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    FoxyWench Salty Sea Dog

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    terriers and bully breeds are the first that come to mind as "not for beginners" breeds
     
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    Puppies. I would recommend any person who has never owned a dog before start with an older dog, period. Unless they had someone experienced to mentor them.

    But breed specific, I would have to go with mastiff types, bull types, terriers, malinois, huskies. I would be very cautious about GSDs too, although there is so much variation in the breed now there's probably one for every type of person out there. The only exception I can think of to those listed above would be a boston bull terrier. Every one I have met was smart, balanced, sensitive, and trained really well despite their owners shortcomings in the communication with dogs department.
     
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    Australian Shepherds are not for the beginner. I learned the hard way, haha....Although Khaki is the 4th dog I've had, I was not prepared to take on this breed...It's worked out great though, don't know what I would do without her now....

    Herding breeds in general are not good for beginners....They can and will easily out smart ya....
     
  5. Dekka

    Dekka Just try me..

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    Absolutely no JRTs!! Most shouldnt be owned by experienced owners either.
     
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    Guardian Dogs or Fighting dog types. Its hard enough raising the first dog without worrying about aggression to people or dogs. Of course any dog can be aggressive, but I think its best to take the safer route and avoid the breeds bred for it.

    Independent dogs, Saluki, Husky, Mals, and even Greyhounds, especially if someone is looking for their Lassie or classic family dog. They don't always do their obedience thing well and are not the classic dog that people think about.

    If they really understand the dog though, I don't think either catagory I posted is really out. If someone met a few Rotties and knows its the breed for them, fine, but there are additional concerns (size, bybs, aggression) that could be more easily avoided with other breeds. Similarly a hound would be ok if the person getting the dog truly understands that they are not labs or collies or something like that!
     
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    Dekka Just try me..

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    I dunno...I know so many people (including greyhound people) who swear sight hounds make great first dogs.
     
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    PWCorgi Priscilla Winifred Corgi

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    Retired racing greyhounds make great first dogs imo. Possibly whippets too, but I would say a definite no to salukis.
     
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    I'm sure they can be, its just that they are not "typical" dogs.

    I've found that when people want their first dog they are usually thinking of bouncy obedience prospect types, labs, goldens, spaniels, etc. The Greyhound might be a better first dog than any of them, but only if the person is expecting the sighthound personality, the independence, prey drive, and the slowness in training that many exhibit.
     
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    OK so assuming someone wanted a big or giant dog (60 pounds and up) what breeds WOULD be OK for the new dog owner. Since most Mastiff breeds are out and sight hounds and herders what is there to choose from (I know labs and goldens but other than that).
     
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    Newfoundland maybe?
     
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    Ya, Newfoundland and I would have to say OES.
     
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    Above all others, I would say terriers! :yikes:
     
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    OES that's Old English Sheepdog right? How about bearded Collie? And Bernese mountain Dogs (I know they are Mastiff types but they are not as protective as many others).
     
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    Definite no to bearded collie, I probably wouldn't say an OES either, not the ones I've been around.

    I haven't been around all that many BMD's but they do seem pretty laid back and easy-going.
     
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    A definate no to Akitas and ACD's. I've dealt with both at work and they had me spinning in circles before I figured them out.

    What about a Great Dane for a first time owner? They tend to be gentle if they are well trained. Maybe a Saint Bernard?
     
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    I think it depends on the owner. I think a really dedicated person who really does the research and does everything right can handle a lot of the dogs everyone has said are 'off limits'. I think it depends on the person more so then the breed.

    ~Tucker
     
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    Laurelin I'm All Ears

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    Me too! There are certain things that I as an owner would be much more willing to deal with than other things. I don't know if I could handle a dog aggressive dog again, but I can handle the need for stimulation that the herders have. As long as the person is realistic, I think they can handle any breed that would truly suit them the best. Some breeds will require more research and soul searching though. Out of the dogs I've had, our GSD X was probably the worst as far as issues we had to deal with- he was an escape artist, highly protective, very smart, very energetic, etc etc etc.
     
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    Dekka Just try me..

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    But most first time owners don't know what they can handle when it happens. They might think they can handle a high energy or dog aggressive breed, but when faced with the reality, find out they can't.

    I agree that anyone who has owned dogs is more likely to be able to decide what they can handle and what they can't.
     
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    simplymisty IL Dog Freak

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    Well my very 1st dog w/ no experience was a german shep and she was brought over from germany. I didn't know a lot about owning dogs other than I knew I loved dogs and always had a dog growing up as a kid. My 2nd was a golden and I think I did ok with both. As long as they're a dog lover who is REALLY willing to put the time in, then almost any breed should be ok.
     

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