no kill shelters

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  1. dogsarebetter

    dogsarebetter EVIL SHELTIES!!!!

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    is it actually a bad idea to have, and to support a no kill shelter?
    i am bad with words but i will try to say this the best that i can.

    by having a no kill shelter... the shelter would get crowded with dogs/cats and since they dont kill it will not make any more slots to bring in other dogs and cats.
    what i am saying is maybe i pet that hasnt been adopted out in so long should be PTS so there are more slots to give dogs that would be more adoptable a better chance?
     
  2. Lizmo

    Lizmo Water Junkie

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    Firstly....a no kill shelter will only take dogs that are up to date on shots and they make them pay a fee for drop off......I THINK!!! :)

    So I think they only take certain dogs?
     
  3. dogsarebetter

    dogsarebetter EVIL SHELTIES!!!!

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    well, i know the no kill shelter here takes dogs from kill shelters that are not getting adopted out...
     
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    I don't think they are a bad idea. The shelter I go to is a No-Kill Shelter. I think a kill shelter does not adopt out near as many animals due to the fact that there is not that much time from the time they arrive at the shelter to the time they are PTS. At the No-Kill Shelter I go to we are normally full butwe always have room for more. We are about half full right now. We normally adopt out at the same rate we get them but we are also a Dog only shelter. There is a cat only one in the next town which we are joined with. So no I do not think it is a bad idea to have no-kill shelter.
     
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    The no kill shelters around here only take surrendered pets with up to date vet care... and the only pets pts are ones with aggression issues/poor health.
     
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    jess2416 Who woulda thought

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    IMO it depends, if your going to have a NO-KILL shelter that turns down everyone that puts in an application for a specific dog, then thats not doing that dog any favors, its risking the life of another dog, that could need that spot at the no kill shelter
     
  7. Purdue#1

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    rabbitsarebetter, i kind of agree with you. what is the point of making an animal suffer in the kennels when it can be finally free of pain and suffering? What is the point of keeping a dog or cat in the shelter when they deem it "unadoptable" when it can be free of the pain its so called owners inflicted on it. why make it suffer in a kennel that when people pass by it throws itself at the door because its the only way it knows that it won't be hurt anymore. Maybe it should permanetly not hurt anymore.Why keep an animal living when it is in physical or emotional pain?
     
  8. dogsarebetter

    dogsarebetter EVIL SHELTIES!!!!

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    i see.
    thank you. i guess every no kill shelter is diffrent.
     
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    dogsarebetter EVIL SHELTIES!!!!

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    ty pardue
     
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    I have mixed feelings about no kill shelters all together. I'm not for putting a dog down in 3 days if it's not adopted. But for those dogs who languish in these cells for too long.....well, that's worse than death IMO. It would be a kindness to put them down if they're not adopted in a reasonable time frame.

    Wow, a bunch of us posted at about the same time. So, I just said sort of the same thing that was said.
     
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    dogsarebetter EVIL SHELTIES!!!!

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    and of course make more slots for adoptable dogs!
     
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    There's no such thing as a "no kill" shelter, it's simply a term used to draw in funding and public support. In reality, "no kills" are "low kills."

    Some no kills only take in certain owner surrenders or pull animals from other shelters, which means they have a closed-door intake policy.

    Some have an open-door intake policy, which means they take in strays, owner surrenders, and do animal control.

    Some no kill shelters should not be supported, in my opinion, because all they end up doing is warehousing animals in less than ideal conditions - and the animals in fact end up suffering.

    However, some no kills utilize foster care programs and have expanded their facilities to be able to properly house more animals long-term.

    You should always investigate the organization you support. IMO it's not black and white as to whether you should support "no kill" shelters, but which ones you support.

    I worked for the #1 no kill shelter in the nation for a year (Tompkins County SPCA in Ithaca, NY). The year I worked there, we saved 93% of the cats and dogs that came through the shelter - 7% were euthanized for extreme behavioral and extreme medical problems. Tompkins has an open-door policy, along with a beautiful new 3.5 million dollar shelter with rooms instead of kennels and cages. They have the best foster care program I have ever seen, and it truly makes a difference.
     
  13. dogsarebetter

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    thats great to hear
     
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    I know several . A friend of mine in Muncie started one and is very successful . Many support it . Our Humane society here does their best to re-home . But , we have to face it , some dogs and cats just aren't adoptable .
     
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    i think their a good idea. but every effort should be made to have the "hard to adopt dogs" adopted out
     
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    In St. Louis, Mo., each no kill shelter euthanize any APBT'S that come in, or tell you to call pit bull rescue, who will tell you that the shelters never call them ever. It's not a no kill shelter, it;s just a shelter that keeps the breeds they like. :rolleyes:
     
  17. Purdue#1

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    Huh?

    What part of ky do you live in? what humane society do you use?
     
  18. dogsarebetter

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    i dont use any humane society because its a 45 minute drive to the closest one.

    what huh?
    ty=thank you.
    as in... thank you pardue

    now living in olmstead, ky its south central
     
  19. Purdue#1

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    I live in indiana, but it's near Louisville. about 45 mins from new albany. heart Humane Society sponsered my dog's odedience class,and the trainer and her husband help with the dog club for 4-H durning the summer. she is an awesome trainer. she would help you with anything. Our big petstores like Feederssupply and the new Petsmart Let kentucky humane society bring some dogs and cats to the stores to try and find homes for them. There was one dog that was 11 and had that cloudiness over his eyes that i forgot the name of.:rolleyes: They were trying to rehome The beagle. He was so sweet, but i don't think they will find a home for him. People want more younger dogs than that. I kind of think the best thing they could do for that dog instead of stressing him out in the pet store setting(dogs barking, people talking, loud noises,being moved back to the shelter at night, etc.) would be to put him down.:( They are trying, but its in vain. Poor thing.:(
     
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    I disagree. The shelter in Newell is privatly owned and operated and runs off donations but We never have any dog PTS unless it is in pysical pain that cannot be stoped. If a dog is too aggresive to adopt out we work with it until it is ready to be adopted. We never turn down any application. If the person that wants to adopt a dog passes the home inspection then they get the dog. If the dog does not do well in the home then the adopters can bring it back to the shelter at no cost and no questions asked. However we can not take in APBT's due to the fact that they have been banned in most of Iowa. Otherwise we would take them in as well.
     

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