No Bulldog or Pekenese will Compete at Crufts
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Oh... it's just a small corner of that world. There is a certain madness that comes with taking dogs too seriously and at the same time not seriously enough at all. 
You see the same thing with other, smaller, show animals. The terrifying thing is that dogs are getting into the same range of crippling distortion that used to be the domain of the goldfish people and pigeon people.
Me, too. I've been specifically avoiding this thread because I'm SO done with the discussions I've seen/been foolish enough to participate in elsewhere. Then I saw someone mention in another thread say there wasn't much controversy in this one and wandered in to check it out... I feel like I've just returned from CrazyLand.
Not against showing, but what it has become, especially at the more "prestigeous" levels. Lots of waste and ruin in order to get the genetic freaks and exremes that win. I think Dogs should be healthy, and utilitarian, along with loyal and stable. They should fit a general set of guidelines to be called a breed.
This pervasive and perverted thought that an extra wrinkle here and a more droopy face there and a nose that actually is retracted into the face rather than a snout or a bit more angle in these bones, etc, to get the most extreme out there is actually the "best" a breed has to offer???
Sorry, I'll never subscribe to that utter bullshit.
This pervasive and perverted thought that an extra wrinkle here and a more droopy face there and a nose that actually is retracted into the face rather than a snout or a bit more angle in these bones, etc, to get the most extreme out there is actually the "best" a breed has to offer???
Sorry, I'll never subscribe to that utter bullshit.
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release the hounds-- I agree with you 100%
How can a person allow that animal go through so much pain and still be allowed to judge? He can't even judge when his own dog needs to go to the veterinarian. It's disgusting.
I've never particularly liked the idea of dog showing (especially the more prestigious shows) and now I've lost even more respect for the idea of showing.
It makes me glad that I have a mutt of unknown heritage rather then these sickly, monstrous looking animals being shown. I feel so bad for the animals. They have no choice in all of this.
How can a person allow that animal go through so much pain and still be allowed to judge? He can't even judge when his own dog needs to go to the veterinarian. It's disgusting.
I've never particularly liked the idea of dog showing (especially the more prestigious shows) and now I've lost even more respect for the idea of showing.
It makes me glad that I have a mutt of unknown heritage rather then these sickly, monstrous looking animals being shown. I feel so bad for the animals. They have no choice in all of this.
For the person who asked -- no I at least am not against showing per se. I do dislike how the current show system seems to reward and perpetuate extreme types. In terms of evaluating breeding stock on the "form" side of things I see more value in having a 3rd party breed savvy panel assess individuals for breed type/correct structure and designated some sort of pass/fail system with written critique of the dog's physical strengths/weaknesses. This system of picking a single dog from a group of good examples of the breed seems to distort some people's perception of reality. This is of course not true for all breeds or all breeders within any breed but it's still far too prevalent.
And the funny thing is that the exhibitors (and everyone else) were told prior to the event that certain eye conditions would be on the list of things checked. To check for those eye conditions requires adequate light. Insufficient ambient light was available to check for the promised conditions so auxillary light was supllied so they could do as promised. It's not like they used it to check things not on the list, like verifying useful dentition, so far as I know.
I'm trying to imagine the people in the movie "Best in Show" with, instead of dogs, goldfish. *snort* :rofl1:
Yeah, I never even know that there's a whole Goldfish Conformation Show world.
No, in fact many of us show (or plan to show) our own dogs. Just, we have healthy dogs, and keeping our breeds healthy is more important than getting show titles.
Yeah, I never even know that there's a whole Goldfish Conformation Show world.
No, in fact many of us show (or plan to show) our own dogs. Just, we have healthy dogs, and keeping our breeds healthy is more important than getting show titles.
No, not anti-show here, but I believe that if you are going to show and breed you should do it with the best interest of the animals that you are working with/for at heart. Sometimes people forget that winning is not the important part of showing.
That being said...it's like anything else...there is good and bad out there in the world of dogs. The thing is with some things we see more of the bad these days and we really need a change for the good
I have been following this thread with great interest...
That being said...it's like anything else...there is good and bad out there in the world of dogs. The thing is with some things we see more of the bad these days and we really need a change for the good
I have been following this thread with great interest...