No Bulldog or Pekenese will Compete at Crufts

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I have seen a lot of foot stomping about a vet who may be biased etc etc. Does anybody know who selected the vet who was brought in?

I've also seen a lot of foot stomping that only specific breeds are being singled out and they're not checking for things that are, like, fatal. Why should a dog get dumped for something surgically correctable when other dogs may have undetected far more horrible fatal stuff that you just can't see. Way to miss the point, right?

It'd be cool if breed clubs would self-police and this wouldn't even be an issue, but somehow more extreme has become the trend, and so many breed clubs have lost sight of what their dogs were supposed to be.
 
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Because we shouldn't breed dogs that need a surgery to correct them.

I think the sample high risk dogs are just a beginning, patience children.

People can stomp all they want, I'm listening but Ive still not been swayed I like the direction this is going.
 
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I have been watching with interest. Does anyone know if the German Shepherd has made utility through or not? I'd dearly love to see them booted from the ring for those horrible rear ends.
 
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Yeah and just to clarify I wasn't trying to rain on your "get rid of the horrid show shepherd rear end" parade because I'm 100% on board with that (because aside from soundness considerations and not being true to original breed type, it is ugly as sin IMO lol).

It's just that some of them are stable on their feet and seeing as how this dog must've cleared obstacles, done the long send etc, it probably is one of them. So disqualifying it (via the vet, not the judge), when it can move properly, has a SchH 3, is kkl1 etc is unfair IMO.

You can't say it's unsound, because the dog was moving as well as any at the show (I just watched the clip and confirmed this, he wasn't wobbling or anything), and it has "a" normal hips and elbows (=OFA excellent). You can't say it can't work, because it's got a SchH 3.

So what are you left with? The fact that his back/rear end is somewhat obscene is the judge's responsibility, not the vet's (unless some sort of demonstrable fault can be found).

TL;DR I will get on my high horse about dogs that cannot function without copious pampering and interference (eg English Bulldog), but am not prepared to do that with a hip-checked dog holding one of the highest working titles available for its breed. (however much I think its posterior is ugly ugly ugly lol).
 
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i can honestly see a bunch of folks jumping ship to another registry if the AKC &/or UKC adopt this approach. imagine continental or WWKC doubling in size overnight.
 
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Coming from the working APBT world, I can understand that ugly dogs can and often do get the job done. They are healthy, they can function, and they do it all with minimal effort. So I can understand the GSD.

With that said, I am NOT a GSD person (I have no real in-depth knowledge), but I think that caboose in horrid. And I mean HORRID.

More power to the dog. :D


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I'm also glad that the other dogs failed. I've assisted with numerous cherry-eye surgeries on related dogs to understand it's not some "fluke" like some like to make it seem.

And those mastiffs...........oh the horrors!

And just for gits and shiggles, does anyone else snort with laughter every time it's the Bulldog's turn to take the ring, and the announcers start going on about how they were used for bull-baiting and yada yada yada? As if that deformed creature could get on and off the couch without assitance much less engage in one of the most strenuous of [former] canine activities. (and I say that with love having owned a [English] Bulldog in the past and while my in-laws currently own one)
 
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Basset Hound did not pass vet check, either. Every dog in the Terrier Group checked out okay, I believe.

As far as the German Shepherd Dog goes, I watched the Pastoral Group and yes, there is some amount of curvature to his spine but honestly he is MUCH nicer than most other VA rated German Shepherds out there, was not that extreme in my opinion. No, not my cup of tea at all but all in all not something I would get up in arms over. As said already, bigger fish to fry. Not to my tastes but not an atrocity, either. Did not shy away from the judge nor did he appear uncomfortable in his surroundings, did not trip over himself...

 
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From Dogs Today

Just spoken to the owner of Marley, the Dogue De Bordeaux that very sadly died yesterday. Marley was three years old and seemed to be in excellent health earlier in the day. On the way out of Crufts she collapsed and vets were quickly on the scene. Laryngeal paralysis was the diagnosis and the decision was taken to let her go as quality of life would have been very poor if extraordinary means were used. This was the first anyone knew of Marley having any health issues. Marley had had her hips done under anaesthetic about a year ago and until yesterday there had been no sign of any health problem but the Crufts vets felt this was a ticking time bomb and it could have happened at any time. Happening at Crufts meant that vet's were close and suffering kept to a minimum. It was devastating to Marley's owners but the have vowed to find out everything they can about laryngeal paralysis so that they can help prevent this happening to anyone else. My Googling shows that it is often idiopathic - I've come across it in Dalmatians. I am sure we all send them our love and support on such a very sad and traumatic event. If you see any comments suggesting overheating being the cause please direct people to this statement as there was nothing Marley's owners could have done differently to save her.
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Equinox said:
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Is there a source for this? I wonder what happened, that is awful.
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They just announced it on the actual Crufts program, live. So I assume its true, otherwise they wouldn't have said it, But I can;t find any links on it. She said his name was Marley.

The final line up is done :) beautiful Borzoi got the Hound group, although Katy and I were hoping for the Saluki or Greyhound :p
 
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