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lakotasong

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The fact that she's breeding unproven pet dogs in and of itself is unethical.

Plus, I didn't see where she said that her breeding stock was CERF and OFA certified in any respect.

We also don't know the caliber of the breeders that are mentoring her.
 

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6:18 PM - Another stupid question??? She has a think sticky discharge coming out, not a big glob but its there. Is this her muscus plug?
 
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No, we don't know the calibur of the breeders and that again is none of our business. Also explain what you mean by "unproven"? Also I don't think she needs to tell us if her stock is OFA or CERF certified to ask a question about temp. I know I shouldn't have asked how she is irresponsible (which by the way SHE IS NOT). I know exactly where this is going to go now.
 

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If this thread had been about whether she (Chibree) should breed her dog or not, it would be fine if you told her she shouldn't, and gave her reasons why.

But that's not what Chibree is asking. Her dog is pregnant. You can't change that. She wants a bit of advice, to make sure things go as smoothly as possible.

If anyone wishes to, pm her your thoughts on the fact that she bred her Chihuahua. This thread is to help her with the pregnancy.

In saying that, I don't actually have any experience in this area, lol. All I can offer is, good luck, and keep an eye on your dog. It seems like she's ready to give birth any minute!
 
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Yay. Expect puppies. Mucus plugs don't necesarily come out all at once. What color is it? And does it smell?
 

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"Unproven" - The dog is not proven to be of breeding quality. Pets are not breeding quality. They are PETS. Breeding quality is a dog from a proven background that has been proven in the conformation ring to be a good specimen of the breed and/or proven in a working venue to prove the same.
 

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My dogs were unhealth tested as well. My dogs were never proven either. Of course, my situation was totally different but I chose not to spay/abort, so I am just as guilty.

But you know what??What says that a future champion cannot come out of this litter?? My litter has 2 going to show for conformation, and 2 for weight pull. Thats a hell of a record for an unethicla breeding!

The 2 for show look pretty dang good, and as they continue to grow, are looking better, in every way.

Health testing??Sure, something that should have been done. When I discovered my dog was prego, I hadnt had it done on her, I hooked up with a vet and we performed a line research, over 6 generations, never found a single hip dysplasia case in it, or anything besides one or two over bites and a bad pastern.

It may have been an unethicle breeding in your eyes, and yes some other stuff should have been done first, but it is done, and I think good will come ot of it.

Not everybody is perfect, AND I am willing to bet even the greatest of breeders, professional breeders, didnt complete every aspect THE FIRST TIME. I bet they did later on in future breedings.
 

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Mach1girl said:
What says that a future champion cannot come out of this litter??
Even if it does, if the pedigree behind it is unproven and untested - the dog should be spayed/neutered regardless of gaining a CH title.
 

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Duh, I saw sticky and thought it said stinky, my badd!!!Whew

Dixies was thick, really, looked like a jelly fish, white at first, then pink.
 

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ChiBree said:
6:18 PM - Another stupid question??? She has a think sticky discharge coming out, not a big glob but its there. Is this her muscus plug?
I'm pretty sure it's the mucus plug, from the general dog books I have read lol. Be prepared!
 

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summitview said:
Even if it does, if the pedigree behind it is unproven and untested - the dog should be spayed/neutered regardless of gaining a CH title.
NOBODY cares about what is behind it if it becomes a champion, becoming a champion will make the pedigree lookk better.
 

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Even if it does, if the pedigree behind it is unproven and untested - the dog should be spayed/neutered regardless of gaining a CH title

So Jazz has two non Ch in her pedigree. I guess that means she should have never been born.
 

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If it is the mucus plug, you will prolly be up all night. Lay down w/ her now and nap, make sure with her, when she starts nesting and panting, get your butt up, because it is show time!!! Good luck through out the night.
 
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Completely agreed Mach1girl!! I am very sick of people like summit thinking that EVERY "purebred" dog in the world MUST compete! Its a crock...for all you know this dog could be perfect in every way according to standards, she even said she has had breeders tell her it is sound. You don't know that those breeders don't compete and don't know what they are talking about. And what you are saying is because it doesn't have a fricking piece of paper from a judge, that she is unethical for breeding it and that dog is not breedable, and won't produce champion pups and you don't have a clue you are just speculating to make her look bad! Give me a break!
 
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Ok positive vibes being sent now :)

I will be going to bed shortly so good luck to you and your chi :D
I am hoping that when i get up in the morning there will be a new thread all about the puppies :)
 
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