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Tahla9999

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I know that there are lots of people on here who will be more than happy to help you with any questions/concerns that you have. Be specific with your questions and I know that you'll get a ton of support. I'll be here for sure..

Will they at least take him to Vet. right away to ensure that he's not carrying anything? I'm assuming that his shot schedule hasn't started yet. Be careful where you take him. He's susceptible to disease and at 5 weeks is pretty fagile in his abilty to fight anything he may catch.

(((((((hugs))))))) I know you tried your best, he'll be fine with you watching out for him.:)
His breeder did one thing right. He had had his parvo shot already and they warned us not to take him outside for some time. Do you think we should have him meet with another puppy( one who had their shots), to socialize with? Our neighbors do have a pup that had it's shots already.

Thank You so much, though. You and the rest of the forum have been so helpful to me. This forum is the best.:)
 
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His breeder did one thing right. He had had his parvo shot already and they warned us not to take him outside for some time. Do you think we should have him meet with another puppy( one who had their shots), to socialize with? Our neighbors do have a pup that had it's shots already.

Thank You so much, though. You and the rest of the forum have been so helpful to me. This forum is the best.:)
I wouldn't take him anywhere just yet. I have to head to a session but I should be back in a few hours. I'll check back then.

Can you ask them about a Vet visit?
 

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I'll check back then.

Can you ask them about a Vet visit?
Well, my mom is telling me that the pup already had the vet visit, had his shots, and that the pup is quite healthy. The breeder gave us a wormer to be place in his food.
 
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Okay, my goal. I will not be on this forum as much, only when I have a problem, because I will be working with this puppy( I will try to give updates). From what I read, his age is the most crucial to socialization with dogs. This stage is when he learns to be a dog. He also learn bite inhibition from his mom.

I plan to socialize him with adult dogs and other puppies, of course I will make sure those dogs had their shots. Right now, he just had his shots, so his body is adjusting to it. The family will be socializing the pup with different sounds and feels. I will be buying many books on puppy behavior to learn more. Mark my words, this puppy will get socialize and he will learn how to be a ''good dog.''
 
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Sounds like you've got a good plan there :)

Just be very, very careful about what other dogs he's around. Parvo is vicious and there are strains of it that the vaccine doesn't fully protect against.
 

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Good Luck, be sure to check around the forum for book recommendations, I'd suggest getting "Before and After getting your puppy" by Ian Dunbar, this will help you make sure your dog is well socialized.

Did the "breeder" give you proof of vaccines? (papers)
 

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Also be sure the dogs you're socializing with haven't been to dog parks, etc recently. They can track it on their feet, as can their owners.
 
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My dad is here now, I told him, showed him the page, but he said we'll take care of it. Now he won't listen to me and keeps telling me to be quiet. My mom agrees with my dad now, and I have lost the fight.

I am so upset right now. I feel like crying. We will have to deal with his problems and I need all the advice I can get to make this pup feel comfortable.:(
Honestly, I don't know of too many kids who would be so upset by mom and dad getting a puppy, no matter what it's age. I want you to know that I have taken at least one pup at the age of 5 weeks, and although I probably wouldn't do it again (I'm older and wiser now) the situation was alright...once I realized that the pup was not eating dry food as the breeder said it was.
It does require more work, since the pup can't continue nursing it must be fed small amounts more often, and it will definitely be awhile before baby is ready for potty training. For now, let baby get used to wearing a collar, don't be afraid to snuggle the puppy as much as possible until he is older, and make sure he is getting adequate replacement nutrition to substitute what he isn't getting from mama. He will soon be old enough to start doing real puppy training.
 
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Tahla, we need to get Breeze (Darkchild) to give you some guidance as well as Miakoda. Those two have the experience with the breed that you need to help you. Breeze is the 4th generation in her family to raise APBTs :)
 

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Thank You BigDogs and I will PM them Renee. Again, I can't thank this forum enough. I have never been to a forum like this before and I am so glad I found it. I love the pit bull breed and have been researching them for three years now. I never expected to own one now, and I was going to wait until I get my own house, but I am happy with the pup. It is quite feisty already! We still haven't thought of a name, and I do have pics, but I am not sure how to put it on the web. It is a new camera so I am sorry I can't show him to you all yet.

I won't be on much, but I will TRY to give updates and ask questions. I am pretty sure that this dog did not come from a good breeder, so any problems that he will have, health wise or temperament, just know we won't give up on him. He is now a part of the family!

Oh, but I have question. What is the best food for a pup so young. Right now, I am mixing his puppy meat with water to make it easier for him. I read it on a website to do that.
 

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I pm'd you, but in the meantime I'm going to try and find you a good, general APBT book.

Just remember that he needs a series of shots. Since he got a Parvo Booster at 5 weeks, I would still vaccinate with an 7in1 @ 7 weeks, an 8in1 @ 11 weeks and the Rabies and another 8in1 @ 15 weeks. Then he'll be good for a year when he'll get the boosters and thus should be good for 3 years.

I will be more than happy to answer any questions you may have. :)
 

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I pm'd you, but in the meantime I'm going to try and find you a good, general APBT book.

Just remember that he needs a series of shots. Since he got a Parvo Booster at 5 weeks, I would still vaccinate with an 7in1 @ 7 weeks, an 8in1 @ 11 weeks and the Rabies and another 8in1 @ 15 weeks. Then he'll be good for a year when he'll get the boosters and thus should be good for 3 years.

I will be more than happy to answer any questions you may have. :)
Yes, your schedule is very similar to what my dad plan for the pup.

Okay, since the pup is so young, how many cups a day do we feed him?
 

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Yes, your schedule is very similar to what my dad plan for the pup.

Okay, since the pup is so young, how many cups a day do we feed him?
I would feed a 5 week old lots of small meals, 3 parts kibble with one part water or milk replacement, soaked until it's mushy. Generally, I would say 4 meals a day, around 1/4-1/2 cup each meal? A LOT depends on what kind of kibble you're feeding. I highly recommend a premium, all life stages kibble. Natural Balance is good quality, for all ages, and affordable at Petco. Innova Adult, California Natural, Pinnacle, and other such kibbles are great, too. I would feed some premium canned food along with the mushy kibble.

One of my friends just adopted a Pittie mix puppy, at 5 weeks... it seems like this breed is afflicted by irresponsible breeders overwhelmingly more than any other. :( But, you are doing research, and you want to raise this puppy right, and that's what counts now! Make sure your entire family is consistent about handling him and teaching him bite inhibition, and if I were you, I'd go to great lengths to find a friend/neighbor/family member with a well socialized adult dog and have play dates as often as possible. Daily interaction with a friendly adult dog would teach your little guy a lot. (Fozzie is the BOMBEST puppysitter/socializer. I would let you use him if you lived here!)

Start NOW looking for a great puppy obedience & play class. Find one that is positive reinforcement only, for sure! Getting him into puppy play classes will drastically increase his chances of being a stable adult dog around other dogs, and it will help tons with bite inhibition. This is a great trainer search. :) Oh, and, hurry up and post pictures!!!!!
 

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I would feed a 5 week old lots of small meals, 3 parts kibble with one part water or milk replacement, soaked until it's mushy. Generally, I would say 4 meals a day, around 1/4-1/2 cup each meal? A LOT depends on what kind of kibble you're feeding. I highly recommend a premium, all life stages kibble. Natural Balance is good quality, for all ages, and affordable at Petco. Innova Adult, California Natural, Pinnacle, and other such kibbles are great, too. I would feed some premium canned food along with the mushy kibble.

One of my friends just adopted a Pittie mix puppy, at 5 weeks... it seems like this breed is afflicted by irresponsible breeders overwhelmingly more than any other. :( But, you are doing research, and you want to raise this puppy right, and that's what counts now! Make sure your entire family is consistent about handling him and teaching him bite inhibition, and if I were you, I'd go to great lengths to find a friend/neighbor/family member with a well socialized adult dog and have play dates as often as possible. Daily interaction with a friendly adult dog would teach your little guy a lot. (Fozzie is the BOMBEST puppysitter/socializer. I would let you use him if you lived here!)

Start NOW looking for a great puppy obedience & play class. Find one that is positive reinforcement only, for sure! Getting him into puppy play classes will drastically increase his chances of being a stable adult dog around other dogs, and it will help tons with bite inhibition. This is a great trainer search. :) Oh, and, hurry up and post pictures!!!!!
Yes, I have a friend who loves dogs as much as I do, and she have a female Husky who is a great teacher. I plan to introduce them together in a couple of days for some socialization. My mom REALLY wants to enter a puppy class for him, and we plan to do it at petsmart, but I will look for more.

Oh, and Renee, I don't have a scale right now, but I say about 3 or 4 pounds.
 

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At 5 weeks I was still putting dry chow through the blender .... more coarse that the early feedings ....of course moistened with water .
 

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I'll chime in here if it's okay. I'll tell you what I'd do if I were faced with the situation of taking care of a pup that age if unable to get it back with it's litter mates. What I'd do, as it was mentioned is teach it what it learns from his littermates and mom (as was already mentioned but I'll reiterate because it's so important). Bite inhibition: It's important not to scold or be very harsh in response to puppy biting. Biting and rough play is absolutely normal and acceptable in doggie society BUT there is a limit. Dogs don't know that human skin is very, very fragile. When the pup bites anywhere close to causing pain, I'd give a quick, high pitched squeal (not so loud as to cause him to cower) and end the attention immediately, turn away, walk away, whatever....but playtime with humans is over. Then try again in a minute. If he mouths gently, let him...show him that gentle mouthing works to get attention and affection. Repeat every single time. (There will be a lot of jumping up and down from the couch and walking away. Plan on it. It will go on for some time)

Later, once he gets this down (which will be a process of both learning and maturity) you can change that gentle mouthing to happen only upon invitation because it would get obnoxious if he did it all the time. You change it by reinforcing/rewarding for the gentle mouthing upon cue and walk away for gentle mouthing without being invited) But while learning to regulate his bite pressure, allow very, very gentle mouthing. The ending of playtime, affection etc must come immediately upon even close to painful biting and it must happen absolutely consistently. Speaking to the pup....even a "no" or pushing him away, holding onto his muzzle...any further attending to can be perceived as attention (any attention is better than none) so that can get in the way of learning. Everyone must do the same thing who interacts with him. One quick ouchie squeal and walk away or turn your back.

Another thing he's missing out on by not being with littermates is learning tolerance for frustration. He's learned some since he was with them for a while, but it needs to be continued by humans. Littermates push and squeal at eachother, fighting for a nipple. One gets pushed away one minute, another one gets squeezed out another time. The same thing goes for other things; attention and grooming/ bonding from the mother. They push and squeeze, step on eachother, clamor around. What humans can do is try to emulate this but being VERY careful not to over do it. That's important. Once or twice while he's eating or sleeping a gentle pressing away just for a 2 or 3 seconds, then let him go back to what he was doing. You don't want to cause over-the-top frustration as that will backfire. When singleton puppies are born, they often miss out on those lessons in building tolerance to mild frustration. A gentle rolling on the back for a tummy rub and affection is good too. It's associated NOT with punishment, but it may be a little uncomfortable for a moment. And yet, it's tied together with a taste of something good, a belly rub and affection. This conditions the pup to tolerate something that might otherwise cause a dog some serious defensiveness later on.

Rubbing toes a little bit, having him learn to get his nails clipped early on will help later. It should all be associated with yummy treats and a cheerful attitude...never undue force or tenseness/anger. Never. Same goes for other grooming; brushing, cleaning ears, teeth brushing. Started early, mildly, gradually, this pup will be able to tolerate these things nicely as he matures.

Socialization...getting him use to people coming and going, normal household noises as long as he's not over-whelmed or frightened is good. Be careful to back off on things if he shows fear and start with a more mild form of these things. Be careful about other dogs that you don't know for a while. When he's about 7,8 or 9 weeks old, other gentle, vaccinated pups who you know are healthy are good to get him around....all very controlled, not just random dogs. At the age of about 8 or 9 weeks, IMO, it's important to get him out and about, have people of various ages, sizes, shapes come over to visit, have him see various environments, objects and a whole lot more every day. But watch that you don't go where a lot of random dogs go. You do need to exercise reasonable care that he doesn't pick up some awful disease. Maybe just go to a friend's house or other place where a lot of dogs don't go. You can not over-socialize a dog IMO but you can over whelm him so a balance has to be found and frightening experiences must be prevented. After 2 series of puppy shots, I believe it's relatively safe to get him into a puppy class. If socialization is delayed or skimped on before they reach about 4 or 5 months, you will have one seriously messed up dog. Undersocialized puppies during this critical period (birth to 4-5 months old) are extremely difficult to fix. That window closes and it's too late. Socialization must begin as early as possible and continued diligently till he's 4-6 months old and continued forever but perhaps not in as saturating a way later on.

Positive reinforcement type training goes a long way in teaching a pup what he needs to know while keeping him happy and enjoying training. He learns how to learn better and the bond created is so much better than using a lot of force and punishment. (my opinion) But there are some things your folks can find out if they don't know already. A good training class, a few excellent books, some good links online can all be recommended here, plus help right here on this forum to give this pup a better than average chance of smooth sailing.

Anyhow, I'm sure there is a lot more that better trainers can advise or think of that I have not thought of. But I thought I'd toss in some more ideas just in case any of it might help.
 

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