New puppy need crate help

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  1. 2BlackDogs

    2BlackDogs New Member

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    It's been a long time since i've been here and now there's a new family member. He's a 10 week olf lab pup. He's been challenging when it comes to the crate and i could really use advice before I rip all my hair out. LOL. I haven't slept in days and i'm very tired and worn out. I've had him about a week and so far things are ok. he's going potty outside about 75% of the time. crate training has been going good except for at night. he howls and whines and just doesn't calm down. during the day he will nap in the crate and play with his toys and bones in there. at night, totally different.

    He's got a blanket and his toys and bones in there. it's in the living room so he can still be with people and not secluded. He doesn't touch his toys or anything at night. he whines and cries for hours and hours. he just won't calm down. i do take him potty in the middle of the night and he goes right back in the crate and continues howling. I put a sheet over the crate except for the door and that made it alot worse. school is starting up in a few days and we need to sleep at night. I need advice on what I can do to try to stop this behaivor.

    The person i got him from got him very young at 6 weeks. since then he has slept in bed with her and she got up every few hours in the night with a baby so she was taking him outside as well. she rehomed him because her husband said she could not keep him. He's very sweet and smart. Will post a picture if i can remember how to. :)
     
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    Try putting the crate in your bedroom with you. Most puppies don't like being secluded from their family while they're sleeping, especially ones that are used to being with the family all day (with the crate in the living room) and used to sleeping in bed with their previous owners.
     
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    i wish there was an easier solution.. but really, ANYTHING you do towards him (good or bad attention) will teach him that the whining/barking is working.
    You've done all I would normally suggest.. perhaps a frozen kong? putting the crate in the room with you?

    Wax earplugs is unfortunately my best advice.

    A LOT of puppies go through this.. hang in there.
     
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    My bedroom just isn't big enough to put the crate in there. :( I thought of that too. I tried a puppy kong with frozen peanut butter in it. he has no interest in it.
     
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    A big part of it is being taken away from his litter so young, and then sleeping with the previous owner.

    I'm not sure what there is, except to be consistent and maybe freeze a kong with something better than peanut butter, maybe some sort of meat puree? Feed him turkey at night?

    OH! Try using Rescue Remedy!
     
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    Thank you Renee. I will have to give the rescue remedy a try.
     
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    He is ridiculously sweet looking! :)
     
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    What a cutie.

    I sure wish you could get a crate in your bedroom because that really helps.

    I'm wondering if you change to the vari kennel instead of the wire crate. One of our dogs cried, but as soon as we put him in a vari kennel he stopped. He just didn't like the wire crate. My friend had the same problem so I loaned her our vari kennel & it worked.
     
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    Thanks! He really is sweet.
     
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    First the crate is entirely too large for him. A crate should feel like a "den" of sorts. Cozy and comfortable. His crate should be big enough to stand turn around and lay down with just some leg room.

    He should just have a small blanket, towel or pillow case in there to sleep on at night. The toys and such are a distraction more or less inviting him to "play" at night when he should be sleeping. I also say one beeding item, as if there are more, it will invite the pup to pee or poo on it. He can deficate on it and push it to the side and sleep on the clean one. If there is only one blanket to sleep on it will discourage him from messing it up because he will not want to lay on it. This is also another reason as to why the crate shouldnt be too big.

    I have crate trained MANY dogs in my life. And it has always worked out for the best, that a new dog in training's crate should be kept in another room at night. The most recent dog I have trained is Zeus, I trained him for my son. He I swear has ADHD so he was a challenge but was successful very fast.

    His first whine was met with a trip potty, then back in the crate. If he continued, I KNEW he didnt have to go again that quickly so I gave him an hour, then took him out again. It is frustrating for about a week, maybe two, depending on stubborness...but if you KNOW he has NOT got to REALLY potty, he WILL eventually stop crying. I promise :) He will test you, and try to trick you......but if you pay attention you will be a step ahead.

    I got Zeus at 6 weeks old and he was completly crate trained by4 months. He eats in his crate. Sleeps, Time out. His crate is HIS haven for everything. Now he even goes in there by himself about 9pm every evening :)

    Good luck. I promise it will work.
     
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    That picture was taken during the day with him napping in the crate with all his toys and stuff in there. he likes to take his things in there during the day to play with them. The crate is large, but it's sectioned off. I found it was best to do that with the larger crate from the beginning rather than buying multiple different size crates and i have no one to borrow from. so as he gets bigger, he gets a bigger section. i did this with Dixie and it worked great since she didn't get as big as we thought.

    He is now sleeping through the night for a full 8 hours. no accidents or whining and the crate is still in the living room. he is fully housebroken as well and now starting to learn some basic training. We've been working on manners but he's such a laid back puppy there's not a whole lot he does that he's not supposed to. He is doing awesome!
     

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