Need help on deciding between Retrievers

[BigDog2191]

I have to stick with Jason on this one as well. Labradoodles have been pretty popular as of late. I see this breed becoming one of it's own VERY soon. And you don't know how well this guy takes care of the Labradoodles... he could be better than most of the normal pure-bred dog breeders.

And if his neighbor has one then Jason has seen it and therefore knows how it acts. If he was aggressive, had terrible behavior, or always acted angrily toward Jason, do you really think he'd be that dumb as to buy it?

There are a lot of mixes that I wouldn't mind seeing become a breed of it's own... one that comes to mind is a Rottweiler/GSD mix... I saw one and thought it was quite beautiful...

I don't believe Jason's in the wrong.

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

The problem is that 99% of these doodle and poo breeds are irresponsible. They have 0% interest interest in having these dogs accepted by the AKC as a breed other than for the fact that it'd be nice to be able to list their dogs as AKC registered because many people view AKC registered as valuable, healthy, and well behaved.

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

Oh, and just as a note...Jason isn't a breeder, that site is where he is thinking of purchasing from.

 

[Jason]

I did read the site.

No, I don't think you did. I think you just saw the home page. It's hard to find the link to the site but it's there. Try www.labradoodle.com. It's got to be the most informative site on the web for labradoodles. It talk about everything including diet, conditions, and GENETIC TESTING. Let me know if I'm still mistaken.

Again, just because they write it doesn't make it so, but at least they know what they're talking about.

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

Jason, what do you have against rescuing one of these dogs?

 

[Jason]

I'm asking that you reanswer those few questions because your answers were very simple and didn't really explain.

My answers were simple because I don't feel I need to talk about money. But if you must know, my wife and I have a very nice household income. As far as our dog goes, money is no object when it comes to the best health care, diet, toys, training, and day care. I'm prepared to spend whatever it takes for a wonderful, well adjusted dog. Ya dig?

 

[sparks19]

I do have to say that Jason doesn't seem like an idiot or a total moron. He did say he has been doing a lot of research. I think that is more than most people do when they go get a dog. I mean at least he is making an effort to get a dog that suits his lifestyle.

i think everyone is being a little to hard on Jason. I'm sure he is a very smart and responsible person.

I think you should give the guy a little credit and not just assume that he is stupid and doesn't know what he is doing.

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

I am NOT assuming he is stupid, I asked him to reanswer the questions because his answers did not give me enough information to understand if a dog would be suitable for him.

 

[sparks19]

but in all honesty its not your place to decide if a dog is suitable for him. he has done the research and he believes that he will be able to care for the dog in every way that is needed. I agree with him for not wanting to discuss his financial situation with you. That is really not your business and I hope he wasn't offended that you asked him. It seems that he feels the need to defend himself here and he should not have to feel that way.

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

I'm not asking him to, I simply want to know if he is capable of feeding the dog a high-quality food, bringing the dog to regular vet visits, and bringing the dog to a reputable professional trainer.

 

[Jason]

I'm not asking him to, I simply want to know if he is capable of feeding the dog a high-quality food, bringing the dog to regular vet visits, and bringing the dog to a reputable professional trainer.

Did you see my previous answer and does it satisfy you?

It's funny, I DO feel like I have to defend myself here. All I asked was about real-world experiences with some of the breeds ( I know labradoodle is not an official breed) I listed. Very few of you have really said anything to that end.

As far as my level of knowledge goes, I'm sure most of you know more than me. But I have done a tremendous amount of research and I'm sure I know much more than the average guy. Would I have even found this site if I didn't care?

Also, I'm not a total moron.

 

[BigDog2191]

I'm not asking him to, I simply want to know if he is capable of feeding the dog a high-quality food, bringing the dog to regular vet visits, and bringing the dog to a reputable professional trainer.

Listen, what might be good dog-food to you will not be good dog-food to someone else. Just cause everyone else says Innova is the best does not mean I will feed my dog that.

And I feed my dog Natural Choice, it's the only decent food that I can afford. I would not give my dog away because I can't feed him the best of the best food... I mean, you wouldn't believe how many people in the U.S. feed Ol' Roy.

BTW, I knew that was the site that he was intending on buying the breed from. I don't see a problem with it...

 

[sparks19]

Right you want to know if he can AFFORD it. rewording it doesn't make it any different. You might not be trying to come across this way but you are. You are being very condescending towards him and by the way he is being defensive i would guess that he is feeling the same way. You don't have to make tons of money to give a dog a loving home. I don't even work just my husband does and our dog is healthy, happy and for being 10 months old VERY well behaved. He really should not have to explain his financial state with you. if he says they make enough then you should just leave it at that because in all honesty its not your business. I'm sorry if I am coming across as being condescending but i think you are being a little harsh with Jason and even if you don't think you are treating him like he is clueless the truth is you are.

I apologize for any raucous i may have caused.

ps- I also do not feed my dog innova. IN FACT I spoke with my vet about what to feed my dog and Innova was not one of the ones he even brought up. So Innova is not the be all and end all of good dog food.

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

Jason, I don't think you're stupid. You seem like you have researched quite a bit and are a responsible person. I am just trying to guide you away from purchasing a "labradoodle" from a breeder because there are way too many irresponsible "labradoodle breeders" out there. If you want one of these dogs, why not check out a shelter?

BigDog, I'm not saying he has to feed something like Innova - I don't even feed my dogs that, we get a different brand that is more readily available and costs less, but is still good quality. I don't mind if someone isn't feeding their dog something like Innova or California Natural, because it's not possible for everyone to feed that kind of food.

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

sparks, I'm not saying you have to be a millionaire to own a dog. My family isn't rich, yet we own three medium/large dogs. Why I am saying is that if you have very little money, adding a dog to the family isn't a good idea, because a dogs needs require money.

 

[BigDog2191]

This is getting kind of dumb. Lately the forum has been driving a lot of people away like this. If someone is wondering about breeding or buying a puppy from a breeder almost everybody on the forum just jumps on 'em all angrily. They bombard them with "buy from a shelter!" I mean, if they want a puppyt from a breeder, why not? That's how I got Rocky. Or if someone wants to breed we jump on them for that too. We need to just chill out and calm down. And then, answer rationally.

Because of this, Jason is getting very irritated. I wouldn't be surprised if he left the forum. I know I've been inclined to leave a few times...

 

[Jason]

Also, I have tax returns for the last three years if you need it for me to buy a dog.

 

[sparks19]

Jason unfortunately I myself have never own a goldie but my step mother did. his name was Trevor and he was very sweet but the poor guy had problems with seizures. He did shed A LOT lol. I didn't spend a lot of time around him though so I can't really give a review other than he was sweet and lazy lol.

 

[gaddylovesdogs]

Jason, I suggest that if you're really interested in a Flat-Coated Retriever, you contact the Flat-Coated Retriever Club of America.http://www.fcrsainc.org/

 

[aurorab]

Jason I'm also new here and it does seem like you are having to defend yourself when all you did was ask opions on 3 breeds not give me the 3rd degree, tell me that I'm wrong in my choices and make the decision form me, but that seems like what you got. If anything you did make the day a bit more exciting but I don't think that's what you wanted.
Anyway, I can't really help you w/ those breeds but You might want to go see a few breeders if that is you choice. Get to know the mom and dad and see if you like them and ask questions. They would know that breed the best.
It does sound like you a thinking about not getting the golden b/c of the shedding, but other than that it comes down to what you like and what you want and most important the dog. Any breed can have a different personality than what they say is typical of the breed. So go and look and have fun and see what fits you best.
Oh and sorry you got the 3rd degree.
Let us know what you decide on.