Mudi

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  1. Linds

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    So I don't know a ton about this breed but I've always been intrigued by them. But more often than not all I hear are negatives, barking, epilepsy etc.

    So, tell me about them?
     
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    I don't know a lot about them, but I've met about 10 (one used to demo and train where I went for Obedience classes and the rest all happened to be at an outdoor dog show and Agility trial one summer) and loved all but one. They were so full of life and just so much fun. Reserved with new people at first, but either quickly warmed up or appeased strangers. One was severely shy, and her owner said that can be a big thing in the breed, but most of the others were not shy.

    They were fun, crazy, driven, high energy little dogs. Loved to work with their owners and were super fun to watch run Agility. They were very fast and put so much effort into everything! Their owners had nothing but praise for their dogs and adored them to no end. They're supposed to be very, very quick learners and all of these dogs knew a ton of different things. Their owners said that they were fairly relaxed in the house, though. Not to the point of sleeping, but they kept themselves busy without making nuisances of themselves. I remember one saying though that her dog has to get out and do something absolutely every single day, otherwise he's a terror around the home, so that wasn't fun for her if she was really sick or something.

    There did seem to have a little bit of dog aggression tendency, though. Most of the ones I met were totally fine, but there were a couple that were not and their owners said that the Mudi does not always get along with other dogs. It seemed to me to be almost brought on by a lot of unexpelled energy and a very tenacious (almost terrier like is what it reminded me of) attitude. They definitely have a lot of attitude.

    They bark at everything and anything. Bark when they're happy, bark when they're working, bark because they heard *something* (even if it was nothing), barked because a leaf blew by... basically it seemed like they just barked to hear their own voices. And unfortunately for them, they do not have nice voices. It was almost little dog high pitched, but with a screechy bigger dog all mixed in one. Most were pretty ear piercing.

    Anyway, that's my very limited knowledge of the breed! Too bad we don't have any Mudi owners around to tell us more.
     
  3. Laurelin

    Laurelin I'm All Ears

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    Yeah I posted about Mudis in the other thread:

    "Yeah there are 4 Mudis in my area. from Sheltie sized to nearly Kim sized. A blonde, a brown, and two black. Three snarky and not to be trusted with other dogs. Not sure on the fourth...just a pup. In first three's case I don't know if I would call them terrier-like though. But they just seem sort of...off. Kim wanted nothing to do with them with is a big red flag...she looked at them, looked at me, and said we should move over there. Which she only does rarely and with dogs that give her bad vibes...I made the mistake of ignoring her once and have not done so since...we moved."​

    I've heard from their owners and from others that all three of the adults are not to be trusted with other dogs. I believe two are imported and the puppy and one of the adults were born here. The four dogs are owned by four different people.
     
  5. Aleron

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    As you know, Mudi were a breed I looked into and still really like. I know several Belgian people who have gotten them - they look good with Belgians ;)

    I really like Polona's article about them: http://polona.agility-slo.net/articles/about-cs-and-the-mudi

    I have met a few, they very much seem to have an off switch. Not near as busy as PyrSheps. It is a bit hard to judge them by the ones I met though, as they weren't really doing anything but hanging out. Still they were hanging out in a very crowded, spectator heavy dog show with people petting them, lots of other dogs around them all day for two days and all seemed well behaved. I talked to a breeder there who lives in Hungry and brings dogs to the US. She told me they are still very much working dogs, that they instinct test them prior to breeding there and it is very rare for one not to have strong herding instinct. From what she said the barking is very hardwired and is a required part of their herding instinct test. To be a good herding Mudi the dog must bark, just like to be a good herding BC the dog must have eye. They are a very versatile breed, bred to be a multi-purpose farm dog. Many have hunting instinct, can do protection work and obviously some excel in performance events. In talking to people about them and reading about them, I heard them compared to terriers more than once. Also called "scrappy".

    There is a small gene pool and I suspect that epilepsy is probably found in all lines. There are also eye issues and MCA encourages people to buy from breeding stock cleared of HD. Here is the MCA FAQ on the breed: http://mudi.us/pb/wp_b54b6d2b/wp_b54b6d2b.html
     
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    I've only met one, but what a neat dog.

    The epilepsy scares me too much to think about owning one.
     
  7. Aleron

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    Unfortunately BCs are prone to epilepsy too :(
     
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    Only ever met one puppy, but oh my gosh are they dang cute puppies!!! I like them myself from what I've read, but don't know as I would own one, they're a little on the small side for my preferences (right now).
     
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    Which is why I went to a breeder, not a rescue :-/
     
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    Since there is no test for epilepsy, going to a breeder in a breed where epilepsy is already a widespread concern doesn't guarantee you won't run into it. I wish it did though. It is a very hard to control/predict disease because it is late onset and it is impossible to know which dogs are carriers until they produce it. And BCs seem to be one of the breeds more commonly affected with it than the average dog. With such breeds, it is safe to assume no line is totally free of epilepsy. I'm not trying to pick on you or on BCs, my breed of choice has a higher than average risk of epilepsy too. As I understand it though, seizuring is as much a concern in BCs as it is in Belgians. I hope for both breeds and others affected that the ongoing studies are able to find a marker. The studies have been ongoing with Belgians since the early 90s and we still don't have one, although they have made a lot of progress recently. I have to think once it is done in one breed, it will be easier to do in others but I could be wrong.
     
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    It's not as common in BCs as in Mudis, probably because there's a bigger gene pool. And it does tend to run in lines. Steve's... grandfather? I think? produced one seizure pup but that's the only seizure dog that his breeder knows of in her lines. There may be others, of course, but she does keep track of these things.

    So while there's no test for it, I do feel that my dogs don't have a particularly high risk of developing it.
     
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    Honestly I nothing construction to add but this:

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    He's really cute.

    I've only ever seen Mudik from a distance but they seem like awesome dogs. The thing that stopped me from getting one is that they seem to love their own voice. I like quieter dogs who use their voice only when needed.
     
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    I used to live with a gal who had two, she now has more and is a breeder. I can get her info if you want.

    They are kinda like a sheltie, but with a bit of terrier mixed in. She had one that went missing for six months, and was found quite a ways from where he was last seen. It ended up on the news that she'd had a medium come and get a reading that he was along the river or something like that, and still alive. Shortly after she got a call from some people who were feeding him but unable to touch or catch him, so she drove over, saw him, opened the truck door and called his name, he hopped in and it was like he'd never left. Lucky, because he was a blonde and looks like a curly coated coyote.....
     
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    Maybe the same Belgian people I know with them. My local Mudi is very sweet and likes other dogs and people.
     
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    Would that be Luke? I haven't gotten to meet him yet but have watched him grow up on FB :)
     
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    BlackPuppy Owned by Belgians

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    Yes, Luke is my most local Mudi. We belong to the same dog club.
     

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