Moving - where to keep dogs at new house?

[Juicy]

And pit bulls are horrible people killers

An opinion is an opinion. It has been in my personal experience that larger dogs are easier to train to an extent. Most of the small dogs that I've had have always been extremely stubborn.

If you can honestly tell me that poms don't have a reputation as being noisy and that Dachshunds don't have a reputation for being stubborn, then I'll question your credibility in giving advice.

So its ok to say ALL pit bulls are horrible people killers, because its an opinion? You wouldn't last very long on this forum I'll tell you that

A reputation is just that, a reputation. Doesn't make it TRUE, and to assume that ALL dachshunds are diggers, stubborn, or whatever.

And just because dachshunds are hard to housetrain, didn't stop me from not giving it a try or to just give up and have a non-housetrained dog, because my mother would of not been ok with that and Princess would of been a goner.

Its been in my personal experience that labs are hyper, and in other's people experience that dalmatians are crazy, but doesn't mean their aren't calm labs and dalmatians out there...and I just wouldn't sum all labs and dalmatians from MY personal experience.

 

[eddieq]

So its ok to say ALL pit bulls are horrible people killers, because its an opinion? You wouldn't last very long on this forum I'll tell you that

Well, clearly either you meant that as tongue in cheek or you did not see the rolleyes emoticon. Clearly, teedub doesn't feel that Pit bulls are horrible people killers. She was poking fun at a stereotype.

 

[Juicy]

Well, clearly either you meant that as tongue in cheek or you did not see the rolleyes emoticon. Clearly, teedub doesn't feel that Pit bulls are horrible people killers. She was poking fun at a stereotype.

I know, but the following statement was that an opinion was an opinion, and people can pull out the opinion card when it comes to making rash statements like those.

 

[teedub]

And just because dachshunds are hard to housetrain,

How DARE you give Dachsunds a bad name by claiming such an asinine, non-existent issue! (note that icon = sarcasm).

I never had problems housebreaking my dach. If you're claiming that marking is a housebreaking issue, I consider those two different games.

 

[Juicy]

How DARE you give Dachsunds a bad name by claiming such an asinine, non-existent issue! (note that icon = sarcasm).

I never had problems housebreaking my dach. If you're claiming that marking is a housebreaking issue, I consider those two different games.

Nope I wasn't claiming that. I wasn't making an example of YOUR marking problem, otherwise I would have said marking. I was giving an example of a breed trait, like you said dachshunds are suppose to be stubborn, and how that a breed-trait doesn't mean it isn't possible for dogs to not fall under the breed's trait.

 

[Juicy]

Anywho have you consider belly bands as one member mentioned?

 

[Tankstar]

Im annoyed because this is the kind of owner that perpetuates the stereotype that causes people to not like small dogs.

The dogs have to be in a cage because, of her own account, they pee everywhere and yap all the time... there were no questions concerning how to train them not to exhibit these behaviors, she actually said she would NOT train them... and this is not a situation where something changes, she has had 7 1/2 years with one and 4 1/2 years with the other to work on these behaviors... to me that is irresponsible and I really can not believe that there are people here who would think that it is anything but.

I agree I call it irresponsible training as well. as there is obviouse lack of it since the OP even said they wont do it.

I never had problems housebreaking my dach. If you're claiming that marking is a housebreaking issue, I consider those two different games.

They are the same. its a behaviour you train out. with lack of training you will have dogs who mark. period. I dont allow my dog to beg for food, so I trained him not too, I dont allow my dog to be a puller on leash, so I trained him not too. I certaintly didn want a dog who marks in a house, a store, a training facility, a grooming shop. So I trained him not too. He goes to to many indoor places where I would be embarssed by him marking on anything.

Yes all small dogs are hrd tot rain, potty train, bark and are agressive. Should have met our 2 wonderful poodles who were great dogs, with hardly any training. becuase we treated them as large dogs, not the 8lbs of dogs they were.

 

[teedub]

Haha, this place is great.

Begging for food and pulling on the leash is not a natural occurrence. Two intact male dogs sharing a house and marking after each other IS a natural occurrence.

Way to push what I said, too. No, they don't go mark on the toys in the pet store if I happen to bring them in there. No, they don't go pee on a strangers leg.

 

[Laurelin]

No, it's not a small dog thing but some dogs do have marking issues and they're not an easy fix. (Trust me, I know, Beau is a marker at times).

Get a belly band. When you can't keep an eye on them, they wear it. It will cause a lot of males to associate peeing inside with being uncomfortable because they don't like the feeling of being wet. You can buy belly bands at petsmart or you can even make them out of fabric and some velcro. That'll be a start at least. If they're going to be a nuisance to your father (I think that's who you said was home?) either crate or ex-pen with a top would be the way I'd go.

 

[Tankstar]

Haha, this place is great.

Begging for food and pulling on the leash is not a natural occurrence. Two intact male dogs sharing a house and marking after each other IS a natural occurrence.

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This place is great

And still no having 2 intact males means nothing. I have lived with intact animals all my life. and we have never had this issue.

and offcourse pulling on a leash and begging for foodis a nautral occourence. As dogs can be scavengers (searching and begging for food) and wearing a leash is not a nautral occurence. so they want to flight when wearing one, not stay on one. and I would say 98% of people I see be a small or large dog walking is getting their arm yanked the whole walk.

 

[Laurelin]

And still no having 2 intact males means nothing. I have lived with intact animals all my life. and we have never had this issue.

Just because your dog doesn't mark though doesn't mean it doesn't happen in other dogs. I know we just had this talk in Squishy's thread a week or so ago. It happens and it's not related to potty training. However it can be dealt with and should be. It shouldn't just be allowed to continue on, but it can be a hard habit to break.

 

[Tankstar]

Just because your dog doesn't mark though doesn't mean it doesn't happen in other dogs. I know we just had this talk in Squishy's thread a week or so ago. It happens and it's not related to potty training. However it can be dealt with and should be. It shouldn't just be allowed to continue on, but it can be a hard habit to break.

I understand that. My point is you dont just brush it off becuase you have 2 intact dogs, you train them, instead of just sayin when you have 2 intact males, they will mark. well you work with it to mold it and train it out. which the OP refuses to do

 

[teedub]

I'll try the belly band. Thanks.

I understand that. My point is you dont just brush it off becuase you have 2 intact dogs, you train them, instead of just sayin when you have 2 intact males, they will mark. well you work with it to mold it and train it out. which the OP refuses to do

OK, dog whisperer, come work your magic with my pups.

 

[Fran101]

I'll try the belly band. Thanks.



OK, dog whisperer, come work your magic with my pups.

nobody is going to do it for you. and im sorry being a teenager isn't an excuse, buying a dog is about putting the effort and patience to train them to behave properly and having the TIME to spend with them.

im sorry, but if you wanted a pet that didn't mark, bark or cause any trouble with no training then you should've gotten a goldfish or hamster.

these dogs are your responsibility.its YOUR job to give them the best life possible. and if you don't want that responsibility then find them new homes that have time for them

 

[Tankstar]

I'll try the belly band. Thanks.



OK, dog whisperer, come work your magic with my pups.

haha. Why would I go and try and fix 8 years worth of no training on a dog I do not know or live with? these dogs do not effect my daly life

 

[teedub]

haha. Why would I go and try and fix 8 years worth of no training on a dog I do not know or live with? these dogs do not effect my daly life

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[Brattina88]

A belly band can be a good tool to use! I've always frowned upon them in the past, labeled it as a quick, easy, "band aid" fix. But, to be honest it is impossible to 100% watch a dog, 100% of the time. Sometimes when you get home from work, you have to do laundry, clean house, etc. A belly band, even during these times has helped in this household, a lot. And after a while, the habit of the marking decreased and we were able to wean him off of the belly band. Now, it still needs to be on while we are not home (and part of it is separation anxiety) but I honestly have to say that it helped with the training.

The other part was prevention (crate, gated in one room, or x-pen) and the SUPERWATCHING (lol)... I wanted to catch him in the act after the prevention worked for a while. Some may disagree with this, but he had to know that we thought it was Not Okay to mark in the house It only took once or twice, and he caught on. I also praised appropriate marking outside But like I said, sometimes you have work to do around the house and you try to keep one eye on them, but that's when its common to have accidents (thats when we used belly bands)

I hope that helps. Is there a room you could baby gate off to keep them in when your not home? That's another idea, in addition to a big crate or x-pen.

 

[teedub]

If I use the belly bands, then that would allow me to let them stay in my room rather than a crate. How can I work on them with barking/whining while locked in?

 

[Brattina88]

Are your dogs interested in toys like kongs, puzzle balls, etc? (and more importantly would they be non-possessive about them so they would be okay with them alone?)

That's what I would try. Its a great distraction tool, and you could reward the silence. You could also alter these ideas for what works with you & your dogs.

300 Peck | Karen Pryor Clickertraining 300 Peck training
Take one step away from your dog. If he is calm, click your clicker and return to your dog.
Take two steps away from your dog. If he is calm, click and return.
Take three steps away from your dog. If he is calm, click and return. If he is not calm, wait quietly until he calms down, then click and return. Then start again, taking just one step away from your dog.

For example, if your dogs are fine with you walking away from them, leaving the room, but not exiting the front door, I would start there.

I think a lot of dogs are 'misdiagnosed' with separation anxiety - I think dogs who are not used to being confined are a little bit anxious, but its also similar to a toddlers behavior, throwing a minor fit because they're not really all that happy about it lol