Mordy..my old dog won't eat - need ideas?

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  1. dr2little

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    I guess I could have PM'd you but I thought maybe others would also have some good ideas. My 15 year old Chihuahua (Tia) who has been in heart failure for the last 3 years has taken a rather dramatic turn in the last week. Along with some other issues that I'm trying my best to help her with, her appetite for her food (Eagle Pack - holistic), has really decreased. Can you suggest anything that I can make for her (not raw) that will be more palatable and healthy for her...she's only 3 lbs. now and is loosing weight.

    I know I'm loosing her:( (I can't bear the thought) and I want to make her time left with us the best possible. She is still interested in treats but of course I want her to be getting proper nutrition especially with her heart condition.
    She is not able to eat turkey but I've been boiling chicken breast for her and she loves it but of course I need to add something to it to make it complete.

    Any suggestions would really be appreciated...
     
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    If she loves home prepared food why don't you do that for her? You can grind up egg shells for calcium if you feed boneless meat. At her age and with her health you probably just want to keep her eating. maybe she'd like tripe?
     
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    One thing you could try that many dogs really like is the dehydrated food from The Honest Kitchen.

    They have a new product called "Preference", to which you add fresh meat (cooked or raw) to create a complete food:
    http://thehonestkitchen.com/preference.htm

    Any good quality canned food would of course also be an option, for example any of Eagle Pack's cans are excellent.
     
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    She's never eaten "people food" but I am cooking for her now, I just didn't know what veggies would be best to add to chicken to make sure that I'm giving her the most complete nutrition that I can. You're right, I really do just want to stop the weight loss and have her enjoy eating again.

    I did try tripe...OMG the smell:eek: ...it gave her really loose stool and I have to say with the smell of it I was almost relieved that it didn't work out:D
    I'll try the ground egg shells...I wonder if rinsed canned salmon with the bones would be OK for her? Thanks Saje.:)
     
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    Well you should get all the details about raw from mordy but if she can handle bones that would work and if not I think you can grind up egg shells for her. And there's a supplement and veggies.... might as well spoil her ;)
     
  6. dr2little

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    Thanks Mordy, I'll give thehonestkitchen a look. I don't know why but I did try the exact same Eagle Pack (holistic) in a can and she got really bad diarrhea from it, although she sure gobbled it up.
     
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    I keep forgetting that you've changed your avatar...that dog of yours is just beautiful...love the blue eye!

    I think that your egg shell idea may be best. At 15 and being a Chihuahua, bones, other than the soft ones in canned salmon, would be too much for her. Spoiling is I think the best perscription for her now..
     
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    That's Nanook. She's the boss. Renee said she's like me (or I'm like her lol ) and I think it's true :p

    Why don't you get some of the books on raw feeding? That way you can figure out a balanced diet. If she likes tripe you can feed that and it's got a lot of nutrients.
     
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    I thought that was Nanook, she's a looker;)
    I'm headed to dogwise right now:D
     
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    She's a spaz. I don't think there is another dog like her. She's too smart for her own good, can't sit still and will roll all over you to make you pay attention or try and sit on your chest. She, like most of my dogs, must have been abused. She used to submissive pee all the time but her fear never stopped her from being cheeky or trying to make you love her. lol She's calmed down a lot but she's still a freak lol.
     
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    Mordy--I just saw that new preference stuff on the link you gave and that is EXACTLY what I have been looking for!!! Do you have to order it from the site or does anyone else sell it? (like petfooddirect, etc) ?
     
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    The site has a store list :)

    http://thehonestkitchen.com/directory.htm

    The nicest thing about THK products is that they are made from 100% human grade ingredients, in a plant that processes human food. You could eat this stuff yourself and wouldn't have to worry about a thing. :D
     
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    Your dog is elderly and in CHF - at this point, its important that she eats ANYTHING - I wouldn't worry about it being balanced, I wouldn't worry about it being complete. What I would worry about is it being low in sodium.

    Does she want to eat people food at all? If so - start feeding it. Dogs in CHF often like sweet things - Cereals are usually low sodium and some dogs love them - things like frosted mini wheats, etc. Pound cake is also pretty low in sodium, but up there in calories (as are most baked goods).

    Are they the best foods for dogs? No - but to tempt a dog to eat when they are feeling so ill, they will do. And I firmly believe that in the end, the dog should be eating whatever it will eat.

    Both of my last dogs, in the last days of their life - had cereals, baked goods, mcdonalds - whatever it took to get them to eat.
     
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    Thanks...the green light helps....those were my thoughts too. I did boil her up some chicken breast and she's wolfing that down, I've also gotten her to eat some steamed green beans, rice and yams (no butter or salt). I'm happy to cook for her and she has really started to enjoy it since yesterday. It's strange because she really is happy and otherwise healthy (not in any pain or coughing at all) she just decided that the Eagle Pack which shes been on for years now is just not going to cut it.
    Her tiny body can't take much weight loss so I was really starting to worry about her not wanting to eat.
    She was diagnosed with CHF 3 years ago and has been on Enacard and lasix ever since...maybe she'll turn around again and I'll have her with me for a good while still...

    Thanks everyone for the help, she seems to be back to her little piggy self again...at least for now, one day at a time.:)
     
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    Bless you for taking such good care of her! Too many don't value their old dogs. May she have some good years left.
     
  16. Renee750il

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    Ah, Doc . . . I understand what you're going through. I nursed my Gonzo cat through one last good year of life after he was diagnosed with FIV. He never ate cat food again after I found out . . . One of his favorite meals was orange roughy poached with just a bit of butter.
     
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    I'm sure Gonzo was one very happy cat...orange roughy.mmmmmmmm:)
    It's so hard to even think of a time when I won't have her in my life. I've been meal planning, trying to think of things that I can feed her that she'll love but will fit her low sodium needs. I have to say, I'm almost glad that she's off of her regular food. It gives me a reason to really spoil her in a way that as a mom makes me feel good too, and make no appologies for it.
    I'm poaching salmon tonight, Tia's going to love it!:)
     
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    It sounds like everyone gave you good suggestions. I just want to say how lucky your dog is to have you caring for her.
     
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    Doc, sometimes a bit of something savory helps their appetites. Try a touch of rosemary in with chicken breast and just a bit of unsalted butter.
     
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    Hi,

    I don't know if this would work but i've heard that you can feed them baby food....i'm not sure if it would be good for her.Does she have trouble digesting the food???
    Im not totally 100% sure about the baby food thing but u can check up on it,or ask the vet.
    I hope she gets better soon,cause iv'e got a chihuahua too and i think i just could'nt bare loosing her.
    hope that helps :)
     

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