Modern Dog-Training Mistakes

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    Think of it: you’ll rarely see hunting, agility, Frisbee, or law enforcement dogs being offered food rewards during training or job performance.

    Are they joking? I train in agility and I see an awful lot of treats used during training. Not every dog wants to work for a ball or a game of tug. Yet even though I use tons of treats in my training, I can still take my dog out to a trial and run her around a course with no treats.

    Likewise, if she gets something right, instead of erupting with shrill pomp, just calmly praise her, smile, then move on.

    This whole section banks on all dogs being alike. That acting super excited will take your dog over the top. Try training a low drive dog in agility. You NEED to act super excited for everything they do.
     
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    Fran101 Resident fainting goat

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    Likewise, if she gets something right, instead of erupting with shrill pomp, just calmly praise her, smile, then move on.

    A shrill pomp? I pull out cheerleader voice, the happy dance and a **** parade. And that's the way we like it! Lol
     
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    You and me too! I was whooping and clapping so much for Gusto the other night, I think people thought I was a lunatic. I run agility. I like my dogs high drive (as high as Meg gets), and pulling against the reins to do something, anything to get them a cookie.

    Yes, a cookie. Nutter Butters are Meg's favorite. Or cheeseburgers. Gusto dies for hot dogs. I train my agility dogs with food - heaven forbid!
     
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    lol. I aim for a "reward experience" that involves me. Quinn can do all the calm sittign and quiet pats she wants when we're not training. Training is meant to be fun, exciting and worth doing again. its a party!
    When I did my training course parc we worked a lot on using praise as an indicator for the dog. Your release could be quiet boring with nothing to follow if the dog gives you a half assed performance, if they do great then sqeal and run and play and create a point of difference to the dog. our tone can be a great enforcer, why not use everything we have at our disposel.
     
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    Elsie caught the frisbee for the first time ever this evening at the park, and I went nuts clapping and jumping and running around with her.

    Then she caught it twice more in a row, and was super pleased with herself. <3

    For Elsie and me, calm praise isn't real praise.
     
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    Yeah, there is always a party happening when I'm training. I'm more calm when doing something like stays or something that needs to continue and I'm giving verbal affirmation that they're doing the right thing and should continue it (like a good, good, good, YES *Party time*)

    I can see if you have a dog that gets super over aroused and over threshold easily keeping things more sedate to try and reign them in but for the most part if we're training there is loud high pitched squeals, running, jumping and food getting shoved in their faces. And I like it that way.
     
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    I am SO peevey about the treat thing. Because who cares if someone relies "too much" on treats and/or has to make sure they remember to bring them everywhere? If a person can remember to put the collar and leash on the dog and bring poop bags for outings, why on earth is it such a challenge to make sure they have treats on them, too?

    And I'm definitely in the "enthusiastic praise" camp the vast majority of the time. Unless I'm specifically trying to set a calm, sedate mood (i.e. "settle") then I'm probably trying to set a happy, enthusiastic mood.
     
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    Finkie_Mom It's A Red Dog Revolution

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    Yeah, no. We have a lot of LOUD parties over here :p

    And lots of treats! (Kimma and Bubbles are food motivated, Pen is mostly toy but a little food motivated)
     

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