Mia's breathing

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I'll just quote myself from the agility thread. Anyone have any ideas? Vet appointment friday. This has been very very gradually getting worse over time. I've been busy worrying myself sick over this.

Almost 5. Energy level is down a lot this last year. She sleeps a lot more which I had just chalked up to her being 5 and mellowing out. But she'll play ball for a long time in the cool weather or inside. However, she'll breathe louder than she used to while doing it. Warm weather- she doesn't want to play. I'll also hear a little bit of a clicking noise when she pants (if that makes sense).

I'm honestly starting to think she has an elongated soft palate or something. I'm a hypochondriac though, but my trainer can hear it too when she was running in a field after agility.

I was also watching her a few days ago after the two were outside for a couple hours (I was watching from inside) while they were eating some raw. When she came back inside she was breathing a lot faster than Summer.

It hit almost 80 this weekend but still.... it's not that hot. I have asked the vet and it was shrugged off but it's been a gradual change over time and it's starting to hit me now that it is all probably related. And I'm worried about her so much.

I'm going to take video to bring to the vet with me because she's always so subdued at the vet.

She also pukes sometimes when it's hot. I've always attributed it to her having an empty stomach and then running.

You can hear it sort of around 28 seconds- the clicking and snorting. Really get a listen to it around 48-50 seconds.

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That sounds a lot like the breathing of dogs I know who are way overweight - maybe some sort of constriction in her airway? Certainly something I'd show the vet!
 

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Gavroche's breathing was noisier before he started treatment for hypothyroidism, but I don't know if I attribute it to him being overweight, or if it was actually some effect of the actual low thyroid levels. I've heard laryngeal paralysis and other similar things can be linked to hypothyroid.

It doesn't necessarily sound like thyroid to me, but it wouldn't hurt to check her levels if it's at all something you think is a possibility. It could play a role in the breathing and the being less active. Logan is 5 and he's still definitely very active, much more active than Gavroche was when he was 3 even.
 

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She does get fat very very easily but is also not fat either. But I have to keep on it like crazy with her. I got a really good (really bad?) video of it. Will be taking this one to the vet. The end is especially bad. The yawns happen rarely but definitely happen. I'd always attributed it to stress.

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End is after about 20 mins of ball fetching.

I just want my baby girl to be okay. :( Everything I'm reading is just not good.
 

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Vet scheduled for Monday. Really noisy breathing today on our walk. 68 F and humid.

I'm really worried about her. Ugh.
 

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Welp, she's at the vet now getting put under to get xrays, etc.

*fingers crossed*

Heart sounds good though, which is good.

Summer was overdue her rabies shot so we took her in to get that done. Vet said she looked 'very spry'
 
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Awww, poor Mia, poor you! So hard when there's something going on with them.

I couldn't really hear the videos all that well so I'm not sure if it's the same, but Millie had laryngeal paralysis. If she was stressed, over heated, or exercised too much she'd pant, with a bit of a stridor. She'd also gag a bit, usually at night.
 

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Well, it's a collapsing trachea. :( So we're looking at limiting Mia's exercise and exposure to heat for the rest of her life.

It's pretty sad to think about.
 

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Oh wow. =< I'm so sorry. But at least now you know what's going on. And it's good that they didn't keep pushing it off as not a big deal. Poor girly.
 

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He acted like there wasn't much available to do. He wanted her to get leaner, which has been a struggle. I'm supposed to limit her exercise for life especially in the heat. In cooler weather she can do what she wants but in the hotter months I need to keep a watch for any breathing difficulties.

I asked about how likely it was to progress and he just kind of said 'Well, it could or could not'

Showed me the x-rays and it's really bad. He said 'Well I've a seen a few worse but...' :( She's getting about half the air she should be getting to her heart and lungs.

If she were coughing they'd give a cough suppressant but she's not, which is baffling the vet.

She's so young to have anything like this. Though I'm reading average is 6-7 years in small breeds for it to show up and she's 5. So it's not THAT far off.

She is very drugged up right now. If anyone has any suggestions or experience with this let me know. I'm reading about some holistic treatment right now but she's already on glucosamine and chondritin supplements.

Worst case scenario they do surgery and put a stent in but he said that is only moderately successful and also has a lot of risk. The wouldn't do it for a dog like her that is breathing ok in most situations. We have another appt in a couple months for her annual so we'll talk more then I think. I need to research and digest the information.

I'm just really sad at the prospect of her living a very reduced life. She's so active and intelligent. It's just not fair.
 
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Laurelin, I know you don't know me at all, but I am awfully fond of your little dogs. And when you talk about how you feel about Mia, it hits home with me because it describes how I feel about my Oscar...who you have inspired me to work with on doing some things I saw you doing with Mia in some of the videos you have shared.

Anyway, I am sorry about the diagnosis...but glad you know what's going on.
 

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