The link jess posted about cyptic merles answered my question about brown eyes being on a merle dog. I am guessing that cryptic merle is the same as hidden merle.
This is Pebbles dad. He is a 4 pound chihuahua. His eye on white is blue while his eye on black is brown. Obviously something has diluted his right eye, does that mean he is a hidden merle? You can also see white or gray coloring on his face. Doesnt look merle to me but its just something I noticed.
I've ALWAYS wondered if he was a hidden merle or not.
Any opinions??
This is Pebbles dad. He is a 4 pound chihuahua. His eye on white is blue while his eye on black is brown. Obviously something has diluted his right eye, does that mean he is a hidden merle? You can also see white or gray coloring on his face. Doesnt look merle to me but its just something I noticed.
I've ALWAYS wondered if he was a hidden merle or not.
Any opinions??
If you look here, there are some non-merles with one or two blue eyes.
http://www.gis.net/~shepdog/BC_Museum/Permanent/BCColors_Eyes/BC_ColorEyeColor.html
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Thats the problem. I've been looking for info on merle chis... not merle aussies. And it seems like there is MUCH MORE info on merle aussies. lol.
Blue eyes is a serious fault in the chihuahua breed standard, and thats part of the reason why I thought that blue eyes would probably mean the dog is a merle.
Blue eyes is a serious fault in the chihuahua breed standard, and thats part of the reason why I thought that blue eyes would probably mean the dog is a merle.
From reading the standard for chihuahuas, it seems blue eyes period are a fault, not a DQ, no matter the color. It doesn't say anything about merle when talking about eye color.
For example, eyes in shelties (sorry to use this breed all the time, but it's a breed I'm much more familiar with):
Merle is confusing though. This dog is actually merle too, but as an adult it's almost impossible to tell. It's easy to see how some people not so educated on the color could cross to a seemingly 'normal' dog and end up with double merles.
He is stunning, imo.
For example, eyes in shelties (sorry to use this breed all the time, but it's a breed I'm much more familiar with):
Merle is confusing though. This dog is actually merle too, but as an adult it's almost impossible to tell. It's easy to see how some people not so educated on the color could cross to a seemingly 'normal' dog and end up with double merles.
He is stunning, imo.
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From reading the standard for chihuahuas, it seems blue eyes period are a fault, not a DQ, no matter the color. It doesn't say anything about merle when talking about eye color.
For example, eyes in shelties (sorry to use this breed all the time, but it's a breed I'm much more familiar with):
Merle is confusing though. This dog is actually merle too, but as an adult it's almost impossible to tell. It's easy to see how some people not so educated on the color could cross to a seemingly 'normal' dog and end up with double merles.
He is stunning, imo.
For example, eyes in shelties (sorry to use this breed all the time, but it's a breed I'm much more familiar with):
Merle is confusing though. This dog is actually merle too, but as an adult it's almost impossible to tell. It's easy to see how some people not so educated on the color could cross to a seemingly 'normal' dog and end up with double merles.
He is stunning, imo.
Here is my cousin's merle chi, Roxy, and her brother Moto. Roxy has two brown eyes.
I am in love with Roxy's temperament. She is so fabulous and laid back, confident, and marvelous with children and other dogs. Before I met her I had no idea it was possible for a chi to be like that. And her brother Moto is awesome too. Instead of laid back, he has a 'tude, but it's a good 'tude.
Neither one of them is oversized, they are both pretty average within the standard though Moto has better conformation. Roxy is a little bigger boned.
One thing I have never understood was making a color DQ in the standard because of suspected origins. DQing the color doesn't stop dogs from suspected origins of being bred and registered. Just look at Roxy and Moto. If merle was a DQ in chis then Roxy would be DQ'd, but Moto who is within standard could be bred. Which would mean that Moto, who is just as much suspected to be an outcross with another breed as Roxy is, would be polluting the purebred chi genepool even further.
I am in love with Roxy's temperament. She is so fabulous and laid back, confident, and marvelous with children and other dogs. Before I met her I had no idea it was possible for a chi to be like that. And her brother Moto is awesome too. Instead of laid back, he has a 'tude, but it's a good 'tude.
Neither one of them is oversized, they are both pretty average within the standard though Moto has better conformation. Roxy is a little bigger boned.
One thing I have never understood was making a color DQ in the standard because of suspected origins. DQing the color doesn't stop dogs from suspected origins of being bred and registered. Just look at Roxy and Moto. If merle was a DQ in chis then Roxy would be DQ'd, but Moto who is within standard could be bred. Which would mean that Moto, who is just as much suspected to be an outcross with another breed as Roxy is, would be polluting the purebred chi genepool even further.
I'm lovin' this thread....and learning things that never crossed my mind....about merles. They do look very cool. I just about lost it looking at those tiny pups on that 2nd website. OMG! I am NOT getting another dog. I am NOT getting another dog. But that can sure give one serious Chi-itis! LOL.
Roxy and Moto are soooooo cute. I love Roxy's coloring. They both sound so nice....like Chulita and Jose`. They have super temperaments, although from a byb. Poor Jose` has bad patellas. But not Chuli. She's just tough as nails. And they're both from the same breeder, completely different litters though.
But I love looking at more correct types...those stockier legs like they're suppose to have. It would be very nice to be able to get a merle but be sure about the absense of those genetic problems that are linked to that color. Well, next time....if I ever get another, I'll probably get a rescue anyhow. But that won't be till these guys are gone. But have decided to stick with tiny dogs. They've just got so much going for them.
Roxy and Moto are soooooo cute. I love Roxy's coloring. They both sound so nice....like Chulita and Jose`. They have super temperaments, although from a byb. Poor Jose` has bad patellas. But not Chuli. She's just tough as nails. And they're both from the same breeder, completely different litters though.
But I love looking at more correct types...those stockier legs like they're suppose to have. It would be very nice to be able to get a merle but be sure about the absense of those genetic problems that are linked to that color. Well, next time....if I ever get another, I'll probably get a rescue anyhow. But that won't be till these guys are gone. But have decided to stick with tiny dogs. They've just got so much going for them.
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That is interesting. I have heard a similar thing said by some Koolie breeders too. A&M has done a lot of studies with merle.
http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/cgr/merle.htm
That is interesting. I have heard a similar thing said by some Koolie breeders too. A&M has done a lot of studies with merle.
http://www.cvm.tamu.edu/cgr/merle.htm
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