Meet Nina and Logan
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that's a interesting perspective on how you put it, I think it's just matter how you pamper and how well you take good care of the dog/puppies medically, mentally. I don't know that much about breeding
Anyways.. You have a good point! But their gotta be a reason why they'd put "Free Kitty" or "Free Puppy" in the ads. Why do they do that? Could the pup/kitty have medical problems?
Anyways.. You have a good point! But their gotta be a reason why they'd put "Free Kitty" or "Free Puppy" in the ads. Why do they do that? Could the pup/kitty have medical problems?
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Then don't ask for help (a LOT of help), then go about things the complete opposite way. You wasted a lot of our time. It is a shame you went the route you did.
Hopefully you don't go around telling everyone you got your pups from a breeder, or the classified. At least don't do that? Then, you would be supporting BYB, in a way at least. And hopefully, you have the money to pay to spay and vet and feed/house/toys etc TWO puppies. Since you don't have the money for one pup from a good breeder.
She would have given money to a rescue/shelter then. At least in that case, she could've helped that shelter out a bit.
Hopefully you don't go around telling everyone you got your pups from a breeder, or the classified. At least don't do that? Then, you would be supporting BYB, in a way at least. And hopefully, you have the money to pay to spay and vet and feed/house/toys etc TWO puppies. Since you don't have the money for one pup from a good breeder.
She would have given money to a rescue/shelter then. At least in that case, she could've helped that shelter out a bit.
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But if the shelter had had to pay for the pups vet bills food, and care (and take up space for other dogs who don't have responsible people...) why would her few dollars be a good thing? Do shelters MAKE money on dogs? Not here they don't. The pups could have been placed with a rescue.. but then someone else would still have had to pay and look after them.
Really we all complain that people don't take responsibility for the lives they bring into the world. Then when they do.. we say they should have gone and dumped the pups.
I really don't understand all your issues. Am I a bit surprised, yes. I am disapointed, no. Do I think Dakotah will be a good person for nina.. YES. Do I think nina will be a good dog for Dakotah? No idea, I wasn't there, and its not really my business.
Really we all complain that people don't take responsibility for the lives they bring into the world. Then when they do.. we say they should have gone and dumped the pups.
I really don't understand all your issues. Am I a bit surprised, yes. I am disapointed, no. Do I think Dakotah will be a good person for nina.. YES. Do I think nina will be a good dog for Dakotah? No idea, I wasn't there, and its not really my business.
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How did they take responsibility for the lives they brought into the world? They barely know Dakotah and her family. They met her for what a day? That's doesn't show much for concern to me. From what she wrote, it doesn't sound like they gave much thought into where those dogs went. Doesn't sound very responsible at all. Sounds like they wanted to avoid paying a shelter fee to me.
If she didn't take both those pups would they end up in a shelter? I don't know, possibly. If those people where looking to avoid the shelter fee though, then they wouldn't. If she would've gotten a shelter dog instead (possibly an older dog) would she be better off? IDK, possibly. Maybe she wouldn't have two puppies though or found a dog that actually fit her family. Again depends on the shelter or rescue and how good they are.
I'm also a bit concerned she got two puppies at once, with little dog experience anyways, but that's besides the point.
I hope she does well with these pups, I do. But mainly for the pups sake. I wish she wouldn't of wasted our time helping her look for shelter dogs, the random threads about all different types of breeds, etc. But she did. And I am disappointed. And I think it is a shame she went the route she did. Hopefully she takes advice on training. But we'll see if she does, or if she does this again.
Ok I'm done I swear. I just get a bit upset when someone asks for help, a lot of help, and then doesn't care in the end. Just get's that puppy fever. *sigh*
If she didn't take both those pups would they end up in a shelter? I don't know, possibly. If those people where looking to avoid the shelter fee though, then they wouldn't. If she would've gotten a shelter dog instead (possibly an older dog) would she be better off? IDK, possibly. Maybe she wouldn't have two puppies though or found a dog that actually fit her family. Again depends on the shelter or rescue and how good they are.
I'm also a bit concerned she got two puppies at once, with little dog experience anyways, but that's besides the point.
I hope she does well with these pups, I do. But mainly for the pups sake. I wish she wouldn't of wasted our time helping her look for shelter dogs, the random threads about all different types of breeds, etc. But she did. And I am disappointed. And I think it is a shame she went the route she did. Hopefully she takes advice on training. But we'll see if she does, or if she does this again.
Ok I'm done I swear. I just get a bit upset when someone asks for help, a lot of help, and then doesn't care in the end. Just get's that puppy fever. *sigh*
Then why did you spend so much time asking us about breeders? Just wondering. Valid question. I know this board is here for informational purposes and that you were probably just testing the waters in a bunch of different breeds, but WHY take up so much of our time and make us think you're serious about wanting to go about getting a well-bred dog or a rescue dog, and then grab a couple free puppies out of the classifieds? I just don't understand. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad Nina and Logan are in a home and no longer in danger of being dumped at a shelter, but I fail to understand why after all this time, you succumbed to puppy fever.
I agree with Dekka that it's respectable that the people who had the oops litter took the time to find homes for their puppies, but it's not respectable that they would place littermates in the same household, a male and a female, without first altering them or requiring the owner to do so.
Whatever, though. What's done is done, and I know for sure you aren't going to be taking those babies back
so I for one am here if you ever need help.. I've raised a few pups too and cattledog mix puppies are definitely going to be a handful!
I agree with Dekka that it's respectable that the people who had the oops litter took the time to find homes for their puppies, but it's not respectable that they would place littermates in the same household, a male and a female, without first altering them or requiring the owner to do so.
Whatever, though. What's done is done, and I know for sure you aren't going to be taking those babies back
so I for one am here if you ever need help.. I've raised a few pups too and cattledog mix puppies are definitely going to be a handful!
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Erm, unless it's a breed rescue working with the breeder to find a dog they can no longer take care of a good home. lol I wasn't arguing about a rescue though lol Rescue vs shelters don't really have much to do with this I don't think, not that I can see. But a rescue (good one) will know more about the dog then a shelter (unless fostered in shelter).
Then why did you spend so much time asking us about breeders? Just wondering. Valid question.
I agree with Dekka that it's respectable that the people who had the oops litter took the time to find homes for their puppies, but it's not respectable that they would place littermates in the same household, a male and a female, without first altering them or requiring the owner to do so.
Whatever, though. What's done is done, and I know for sure you aren't going to be taking those babies back so I for one am here if you ever need help.. I've raised a few pups too and cattledog mix puppies are definitely going to be a handful!
I agree with Dekka that it's respectable that the people who had the oops litter took the time to find homes for their puppies, but it's not respectable that they would place littermates in the same household, a male and a female, without first altering them or requiring the owner to do so.
Whatever, though. What's done is done, and I know for sure you aren't going to be taking those babies back
so I for one am here if you ever need help.. I've raised a few pups too and cattledog mix puppies are definitely going to be a handful!
I really appriocate you STILL being here if I need help.
I know I asked for a lot of help (and apparently took up yalls time when yall DID NOT have to help me), and I know I didn't go YALLS way on getting a dog. But I am happy with Nina and my dad is happy with Logan.
Oh we are going to get the puppies altered. Just so yall know.
Aww, they are adorable!!!
You people are rediculous. This is a FORUM to discuss, ask questions ect and now you are complaining because she "wasted your time". All your doing is discouraging people from asking questions. Dont throw a hissy fit because someone didnt take your opinion/advice as gospel. Why cant anyone just be happy for others anymore....
You people are rediculous. This is a FORUM to discuss, ask questions ect and now you are complaining because she "wasted your time". All your doing is discouraging people from asking questions. Dont throw a hissy fit because someone didnt take your opinion/advice as gospel. Why cant anyone just be happy for others anymore....
Oh please, showdawgz, I didn't once see you try to offer Dakotah advice so who are you to call us ridiculous?
I don't feel like my time was "wasted", I just have to wonder what the point is... Why come to a forum and ask all these questions and make people think you're going to take their advice, only to do what you were thinking of doing (and were discouraged from doing) in the first place? Why ask so many questions about breeds and then go out and get a dog of a breed/mix that people have suggested AGAINST?
I am happy for Dakotah and she knows I want the best for her and her pup, but I can also see why some people aren't thrilled.
I don't feel like my time was "wasted", I just have to wonder what the point is... Why come to a forum and ask all these questions and make people think you're going to take their advice, only to do what you were thinking of doing (and were discouraged from doing) in the first place? Why ask so many questions about breeds and then go out and get a dog of a breed/mix that people have suggested AGAINST?
I am happy for Dakotah and she knows I want the best for her and her pup, but I can also see why some people aren't thrilled.
As am I.
Dakotah, the best thing (from the research I have done, and experience with raising my two littermates) you can do for these puppies is to keep them separated as much as possible. Keep them in different part of the house, separate walks, separate training time, feed them separately, everything separate. I would only allow them to play together for maybe 30 minutes a day.
If you don't there is a good chance that these puppies will become dependent on only each other and not you (or your dad) at all.
Please read this and do additional research on your own.
Dakotah, the best thing (from the research I have done, and experience with raising my two littermates) you can do for these puppies is to keep them separated as much as possible. Keep them in different part of the house, separate walks, separate training time, feed them separately, everything separate. I would only allow them to play together for maybe 30 minutes a day.
If you don't there is a good chance that these puppies will become dependent on only each other and not you (or your dad) at all.
Please read this and do additional research on your own.
I was disappointed at the start of the thread but after you said they were not from a poor breeder they were an oops litter and you did not fill the irresponsible owner's pocket with money I'm not mad anymore. They are beautiful and I love how they are playing with Peanut. As was said having litter mates can cause issues so try and do as PWCorgi said as far as seperation. Can't wait to see how they look when they get bigger!