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[LabBreeder]

Just so you know...on Tira's father's side, all of the Hips were checked and all are either Good or Excellent! I went back 3 generations on her father's side and it's the same all the way. The Excellent's actually out weigh the Good's. I don't know about the mother's side. I can only go back 10 years, which would be '96, and her grandparents and such go back further than that by at least 1 year.
At least it's looking good genetically in regards to our females hips. Yay!

 

[LabBreeder]

I just checked the sire's side for CERF certification. It seems that they were all certified at some point, but none have been done this year yet. I imagine the ones born in the early 90's are not breeding/showing/hunting anymore and don't need it done. From what I could tell the last one was done in '00, was certified and didn't show any problems. Well, it said NONE so I'm assuming that means no problems.

 

[ihartgonzo]

It's good that they both have lines with good hips & elbows. However, with a breed like this, it is absolutely worth it to test! =) No need to rush things, you can spend the next 2 years working on YOUR relationship with your dogs, it sounds like you're already consumed with that. I feel ya, my Border Collie can get very jealous & snarky with our new puppy. I second the recommendation to seperate them when they aren't supervised, and give each dog individual attention. You and your hubby have to be the alphas, and lay down the laws strictly, to have happy & obedient dogs.

I'm very happy that you are open-minded about this. I'm sorry, but it did sound like, in your first post, you just wanted to breed regardless of health, performance, etc. On the internet, it's very hard to understand one's intentions of breeding in just a short post (especially with the prices. In the "rules of a BYB", posting prices before the puppies are born is one of the basic expectations! LOL! You should evaluate each puppy individually when they are about 6 weeks old, most definitely search for a professional opinion on what dogs have good structure for sporting & hunting, conformation, pet, etc). Seriously though, you will get MUCH better homes & owners, and a greater compensation (money-wise) for your effort if you wait to completely health test both parents, train both parents to be very well-mannered and obedient, and pursue sporting with both parents. Not to mention, won't you have a much clearer conscience if you KNOW your dogs are healthy and have excellent hunting & retrieving skills, instead of just HOPING and assuming they do? I do commend you for coming here, and for NOT breeding your Labs with Standard Poodles, or any other breed of dog! ;P

I hope you stick around, show us more of your beautiful pups, and seek as well as input training advice. Dock diving is amazing, and Labs are great at it, if you were considering "diving in" to sporting with that. There are competitions for dock diving around the country, I've even taken my Border Collie to an event!

 

[Allykat]

OMG!!! I am crying from laughter right now.

 

[LabBreeder]

allykat you are so stupid. i'll just inform the moderator that you are being ignorant and can not have a normal conversation. all you can do is try to make fun of or degrade people.

ihartgonzo - thanks. i just post the prices because i've seen other breeders, AKC, UKC etc have prices posted year round and change them as needed. (they have been breeding longer so it's probably o.k. for them to do it) sorry if that was wrong or offended anyone. i do have a website that has our little one's pictures, breed specs, pedigree, etc...it's alot better than doing something on a forum/thread. especially since people like allykat have nothing productive to say.

 

[Allykat]

First of all he's not going to be 7 months, jack ass! Get your facts straight!!

Oh I'm sorry 9.5 months, is that better.

sorry julie... i didn't even look at his name. i saw that he had made a snide remark about me and my labs and i don't appreciate it, especially when he gets his facts wrong!!

HER name!!!

tell you what. If you can get ALLYKAT to stop making false statements about what I may or may not be doing with MY dogs...then I will calm down.

When did I say you what you could or could not do. You can do whatever your little heart desires but I DON"T have to agree with it and I don;t have to like it. Its life, get over it. People frowned upon me when I got my Dobies ears cropped but did I care, NO. Its my dog and I can do as I please but I understand that not everyone is going to agree with me. Grow a thicker skin. I'm not the type to sugarcoat things.

 

[Allykat]

allykat you are so stupid. i'll just inform the moderator that you are being ignorant and can not have a normal conversation. all you can do is try to make fun of or degrade people.

Now thats mature. When did we start the name game, I thought that was over in kindergarten.

 

[LabBreeder]

yep, name calling is childish...just like what your doing to me. all you have to do is admit that you have the age of prospective breeding wrong for my male and that will be it.
as for your dog and cropping his ears....yes, that is wrong. it's purely a "beautification" procedure. all you did was mutilate your dog so he could look like what everyone else thought he should look like.
you talk a lot of crap about what other people do with their dogs, but you don't care what you do with yours. hmmm, a hypocrite...possibly.

 

[tessa_s212]

Educating this member more, asking questions to learn more about the situation, I can accept. But, the amount of rudeness I have seen in this post is horrible. People.. if you cannot control your own fingers that are typing, perhpas take a break from the internet? Bashing, making fun of, and critisizing will get no one anywhere.

To the OP-I'm sorry, I'd reply to you more, but I feel some others have already had some wonderful advice for you, and I am short on time. I hope you stay. I also had a rough start on this forum, but after deciding to stay, I learned to love it and like many members(and dislike many too). The way I saw it was this: If they can't treat new people well, someone will have to. That is why I stayed, and I am glad. Once you get past the ugly parts of this forum, there are truly some awesome people. But, you do have to get past those ugly parts...

Anyway, Welcome. (We LOVE pictures. )

 

[LabBreeder]

ok, so you got the age right.........finally.

and if you are a woman, act like one....

as for everything else...i'm done with you as long as you are done with me. otherwise i can just keep on going.

 

[Allykat]

yep, name calling is childish...just like what your doing to me. all you have to do is admit that you have the age of prospective breeding wrong for my male and that will be it.

BY TWO freaking months. When did I call you a "jackass" or "ignorant" or "stupid", not that I recall.

as for your dog and cropping his ears....yes, that is wrong. it's purely a "beautification" procedure. all you did was mutilate your dog so he could look like what everyone else thought he should look like.
you talk a lot of crap about what other people do with their dogs, but you don't care what you do with yours. hmmm, a hypocrite...possibly.

Oh, I love it. Its amazing how people hold their opinions so high but no one elses matters. I thougt you were the one who said I can do whateve I want with my dog. But that only applies for you, right?
Nope not a hyprocrite. I said people do talk sh*t all the time about my dog but I don't care. I can talk as much crap as I want, and people can talk all they want about me and my choices. Its a FACT OF LIFE, not everyone is going to agree with you, at least I'm not as naive as you to understand that. Grow up!!

ok, so you got the age right.........finally.

I wouldn't gloat about breeding a 9.5 month old dog.

and if you are a woman, act like one....

What in the hell is that supposed to mean. What does a women act like? Don't tell me that you are one of those who believe a place for a women is in the kitchen. I am a young lady actually but I will never keep my mouth shut because I'm a female.

as for everything else...i'm done with you as long as you are done with me. otherwise i can just keep on going.

Yippe!!!!

 

[Allykat]

Educating this member more, asking questions to learn more about the situation, I can accept. But, the amount of rudeness I have seen in this post is horrible. People.. if you cannot control your own fingers that are typing, perhpas take a break from the internet? Bashing, making fun of, and critisizing will get no one anywhere.

To the OP-I'm sorry, I'd reply to you more, but I feel some others have already had some wonderful advice for you, and I am short on time. I hope you stay. I also had a rough start on this forum, but after deciding to stay, I learned to love it and like many members(and dislike many too). The way I saw it was this: If they can't treat new people well, someone will have to. That is why I stayed, and I am glad. Once you get past the ugly parts of this forum, there are truly some awesome people. But, you do have to get past those ugly parts...

Anyway, Welcome. (We LOVE pictures. )

Coming from the girl who discredits and looks down upon anyone who does not use strickly positive training methods. But then again Tessa you are a perfect little angel.

 

[MomOf7]

Just so you know...on Tira's father's side, all of the Hips were checked and all are either Good or Excellent! I went back 3 generations on her father's side and it's the same all the way. The Excellent's actually out weigh the Good's. I don't know about the mother's side. I can only go back 10 years, which would be '96, and her grandparents and such go back further than that by at least 1 year.
At least it's looking good genetically in regards to our females hips. Yay!

How awsome is that?!!
Its great to have well bred dogs. Makes you appreciate the time, effort, thought, and money put into each litter. Makes you understand why some litters are so expensive!
Keep up the good work!


Please dont steal this thread to argue. Take it to pm please

 

[brock23]

allykat you are so stupid. i'll just inform the moderator that you are being ignorant and can not have a normal conversation. all you can do is try to make fun of or degrade people.
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That's good, start telling on people to mods your first day on a board. Did you get that from "How to Win Friends and Influence People"? At least wait a week before you start tattling to the authorities. Of course with the pace your on you will have 5000 posts by then and they might make you a mod.

 

[MomOf7]

I will stay here, sit back and watch the games begin...Anyone up for some popcorn and a beer?

 

[Julie]

Yes, Thank you. I will take a beer.

 

[tessa_s212]

I will stay here, sit back and watch the games begin...Anyone up for some popcorn and a beer?

How bout Cheesecake and Pepsi!? Lol! Tessa doesn't like popcorn, and obviously can't have beer!

 

[blue]

allykat you are so stupid. i'll just inform the moderator that you are being ignorant and can not have a normal conversation. all you can do is try to make fun of or degrade people.
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That's good, start telling on people to mods your first day on a board. Did you get that from "How to Win Friends and Influence People"? At least wait a week before you start tattling to the authorities. Of course with the pace your on you will have 5000 posts by then and they might make you a mod.

I was the first mod and I probably fanned the flames to the ensuing flamefest and Chaz can take that as he wishes, lets all, including the OP, stop the flaming and maybe actually be constructive here.

I do have to say, Brock I busted a gut at that pic. Now lets all play nice.

 

[LabBreeder]

i thought i was done with allykat. she sent a nice little pm stating that she'd overreacted. apparently that was a lie.
you all can do whatever you want. i've already said i'm tired of arguing about this. allykat...do whatever you want, but you don't need to put others down about what they may (or may not) do when you yourself do things that are not liked. if you can't have a constructive opinion, then keep it to yourself.
as for mr/mrs. don't tattle on your first thread...whatever man. you say that now, but if it was you getting jumped on every few minutes i'm sure you'd get tired of it too.

 

[~Tucker&Me~]

OKay guys...
Settle down .
Glad to have you here LabBreeder. I look forward to seeing your dogs, they sound wonderful!
Any pics?

~Tucker