KC bans merle to merle breedings starting Jan 2013

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  1. Laurelin

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    I thought this was interesting although I'm confused as to why they say all dogs from merle x merle are unable to be registered and then they go on to mention shelties, beaucerons, and dachshunds specifically. Anyone understand what they mean by that? (I've bolded the lines confusing me)

    http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/item/4303/23/5/3

    I think this is a very good thing.
     
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    I think it is saying that starting 2013 no litter for registration if the parents were merle to merle, but starting right now they won't accept those certain breeds? Maybe, I actually have no clue :p
     
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    That kind of makes sense. I really can't make heads or tails of those two lines.
     
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    They've done this in some horse registries.

    Basically, if you go on and breed a merle x merle litter anyway, they'll refuse registration for that litter. The dogs will go unregistered, and probably unable to do all the things registered dogs would be able to do....show, sire/whelp registered litters, etc.

    I think it is a very good thing as well....as long as it is regulated. As far as I know, anyone can lie on registration papers, and they aren't forced to prove anything via DNA.
     
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    Because it is part of the same sentence, I think they are saying that those three breeds have requested the ban of merle x merle before. It is poorly worded, but that is my take on it.
     
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    Oh, wait. I get it. Those three breeds have successfully requested the ban. They are already banned, because they asked for it previously. All breeds will be subject to the ban as of the date listed.
     
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    Ohhhhhh! I get it now. That's a really badly worded sentence.
     
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    Wonder if that applies to harl x harl breedings in Great Danes since they are genetically merle with a harlequin modifier.
     
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    Yea, that's how I'm reading it... those individual breed clubs had already requested the same thing, and that's the only reason they're being mentioned individually.

    I'm impressed that they aren't accepting registration at all for breeds where merle doesn't occur naturally. The sudden mysterious appearance of merle in all sorts of breeds makes me uncomfortable.
     
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    That was my first thought too. HOnestly, I think it would be a good thing...also think they should add merle to accepted colors.
     
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    Awesome! No more BYBs pumping out papered blind and deaf dogs..
     
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    So I asked....

    Question: With the recent changes to the registration policies of dogs descended from two merle parents will that policy affect harlequin to harlequin breedings of Great Danes?

    The Kennel Club Hi ______, there are no plans for restrictions at the moment. But if you have any concersn over health implications feel free to contact us on info@thekennelclub.org.uk
     
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    That makes no sense for harl x harl to not be banned as well. It's the same thing genetically (with a modifier) as breeding merle x merle. Same health risks.
     
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    Are you freaking kidding me?! That makes absolutely no sense. GAH.
     
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    this :)
    I think it's a great step in the right healthy breeding program direction.
     
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    Good to see them making a movement to clean up some of the messes!
     
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    Are harl x harl breedings common in Danes? It doesn't seem a sound decision for the BYB/puppy miller, because you loose a quarter (or more) of your potential puppies, or for the show breeder because you barely get any dogs of a showable color (and it's my understanding Harlequin Danes are uncommon in the show ring to begin with, because getting the markings correct is such a crapshoot).
     
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    I think I'm still a bit confused, I thought they had already put a ban in place before on all MM breeding's? But, that ^^^ is what I'm thinking then, I do know that the Beauceron club has previously made a statement that they do not recognize breeders who do Harli(genetically Merle) to Harli breedings.
     
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    I know dane colors are...weird. So many of the colors found in the breed are DQ'd in the show ring and I'm honestly not really sure why they're DQ'd. I'm pretty sure you have to breed either harl x harl or harl x black/mantle. Is that right?

    I've seen quite a few white (double harl) danes fwiw. Don't know anything about their breeding though.
     

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