Justice for mijo

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  1. goldiefur

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    That is disgusting. The pictures are horrific. I don't know how much of a difference I can make since I'm not in that area but I am definitely going to contact whoever I can to help.

    The guy who did this is a monster and if you search it you can see that three dogs in total in that area have been attacked with a machete!
     
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    Renee750il Felurian

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    And people are afraid of pitbulls . . .
     
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    Wow... that's horrible.

    But the bottom line is if you don't want your dog to be a dead dog you have to keep it on your property, off the street, and out of yards where they are not welcome.
     
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    The "bottom line" is it is barbaric, monstrous and definitely cruelty to hack a dog to death with a machete.
     
  6. Kat09Tails

    Kat09Tails *Now with Snark*

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    Without a doubt and not the method of dispatching a dog I would choose... it is however not illegal with the key words "afraid for my life" which is the do what you gotta do clause. It throws cruelty out the window as he didn't lure the dog, there apparently were no witnesses to say otherwise, and the dog was wandering, admittedly not the first time out of the yard.

    Nothing will happen to this guy - because in the eyes of the law he did nothing wrong and IMHO a person should have the ability to defend themselves against a dog on their property using whatever they have at hand if the need comes up.

    I know people who shoot any straying dog that wanders on their property even if they've never seen that dog before. I also know someone who will pump your dog up with bear mace for getting within six feet of them while they're jogging even if your dog is just happy to see them. Not everyone loves dogs nor welcomes them into their life and in the end it's the owners responsibility to keep their dog in their yard.
     
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    I highly doubt he feared for his life. He had time to run into his house, grab a weapon and run back out. Then not only did he not attack the dog in his own yard he chased it down and hacked it up across the street from where he lives. If the animal is running away from you *most of the cuts were on the dogs back and hindquarters. those were also the deepest* and you have to literally chase it down. Your life is not in danger.

    I live in the country where a lot of people shoot dogs that wander. They kill chickens and other smaller farm animals. But I guess in my eyes shooting and killing an animal in one shot is waaaaaaaay different than chasing one down with a machete and stab/slashing it 4 times and then letting it hobble off to die.

    Also there has been a total of 3 dogs in that neighborhood who have shown up with machete wounds. It doesn't sound like this is a first time thing.
     
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    I can't help but kind of agree with Kat09tails on this. Horrific? yes. Is the guy a monster? most definitely. But the owner shoulders some responsibility here.

    Very unfortunate for the dog.

    Living near someone who I know has this history of machete weilding... I'd be taking extra extra extra precaution to keep my dog contained to my property.

    ARGH... in the video about the incident they still show him walking down the street with his other dog not on leash. WTF?
     
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    Absolutely agree.

    Should you do your best to keep your dog contained? Absolutely.

    But this guy . . . actions like this bespeak "neighborhood psycho." If I were walking in that neighborhood, I'd damnsure be packing.
     
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    This guy has a history of hacking dogs up with a machete. And the fact that he went back outside after getting his machete and approached the dog instead of calling police doesn't really jive with the "afraid for his life" argument. Why in the heck would you approach a dog if you're afraid for your life, especially if the only weapon you have is hand to hand and not a firearm.

    He sounds like a psycho who likes hacking animal up. And probably hates dogs, or dogs pooping in his yard and is trying to find ways to get away with it.
     
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    Where does it say he went into his house to get the machete? Maybe he was gardening or limbing trees? Either way it doesn't matter.

    There would be no story if this dog was hit by a car and bled out on the side of the road. There would be no story if his dog ate rat/coyote poison while wandering and died of internal bleeding.

    I'm all for finding justice where it's due but in this case... it's just a story of not obeying the leash law and finding out the hard way the consequences of that.
     
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    This! Heck, snakes scare the crap out of me and I wouldn't hack one up with a machete.There is something seriously disturbing about that behavior. Also just because a dog is loose does not mean you get to dispatch it in any horrifying way you see fit. Hitting a dog on the road is most often an accident, chasing one down with a machete is not. If I had seen behavior from someone like that in my neighborhood I would be calling the cops in a hot second, and raising hell with their landlord (most homes in are street are rentals) and I'm not typically "that kind" of neighbor at all. I keep my dogs contained but I do not want to live anywhere near someone who has repeatly hacked anything up with a machete. What if kids had seen that happen? And this is coming from someone who is a total leash nazi......
     
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    This.

    Also, in most places it is illegal to purposefully run over an animal with your car. It's hard to prove intent, but in cases where there are witnesses people have been convicted of felony animal cruelty for running a dog over.

    ETA: the thing that's most damning to me is that this is not the first time the neighbor has used a machete on a dog. If he has a dog phobia, mutilating animals is not a legal or ethical way to deal with animals coming in his yard.

    Also, if the dog came into his yard like he claims, he feared for his life and struck it four time with a machete, and it ran off bleeding and maimed, why on earth did he not report the incident to the authorities?
     
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    and unfortunately the other dog will likely be next because

    A) the authorities don't see anything wrong with a guy running around swinging a machete at anything that comes on his property

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    B) the owner of Mijo hasn't learned anything is apparently is continuing to let his other dog go around off leash (if the news report video is any indication).

    So another dog will pay the price because people are idiots. Accidents happen and dogs get out but to just let your dog go around off lead ESPECIALLY after your other one was brutally killed... that's just plain stupidity and the dogs suffer in the end
     
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    No matter how horrific and sadistic this is, people need to keep their dogs restrained/contained AT ALL TIMES!!

    IMO, the owner shoulders the majority (as in 99.99999%) of the blame.

    When will people learn to quit letting their dogs roam loose?! It's a cruel world out there, and it's an owner's responsibility to keep their dogs safe, and to keep them under their control at all times.

    Going back to whether or not the dog was being threatening, who knows? Probably no, but if you (the owner) are not there to witness, then you really don't know, do you. People all too often want to portray their dog as innocent, playful fluffy-bottoms. But not every thinks being chased by a roaming barking dog is all that amusing.
     
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    Well the owner tracked the blood trail from his house where Mijo collapsed to the street in front of the killers house. He showed the cops and there was no evidence of blood on the killers grass or property it all started in the street. I agree 100% about keeping your dogs leashed or in! I had two incidents in the past 12 years. Once the meter reader who had been told not to come in our yard (they have scanners that scan over the fence) and did not shut the gate. I had let my dogs out a few hours later forgetting to check and they all got out luckily I saw this right away and got them all back in. The second time my niece was here and let Brock (Brody's brother) out through the garage door. By time we saw the door open he was gone. We searched everywhere and at about 3am I decided to go walk the streets and when I opened the door there he was on the porch scared to death. I live in total fear of my idiot family members or crazy circumstances allowing my dogs to get out. I remember being terrified they would be killed by people more than even worrying about them being hit by a car. There are so many evil people out there and I have a few in my neighborhood.

    This man should not be letting his other dog off leash at all and he should look into moving. I will say if this happened to my babies the scum would be dead and you guys would be seeing me on the news.
     
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    Yeah, I can't excuse something like this for any reason. If a dog is threatening you, and for some strange reason you just happen to be putzing around the yard with a machete, then you do what you need to to get it out of your yard, you don't hack up an animal on the run. I totally get people shooting a dog that is threatening themselves, their family, or their animals. It sucks, but I can see where it might be necessary to protect you and yours.

    I have used a machete before in our yard on our ivy, and I'm not a weakling, but it takes energy to use. It would take work to hack a dog to death with one, while chasing it to boot. It would also take a special kind of person to continue to injure the animal as it fled.

    I guess it also comes down to the kind of community you want to live in. I do NOT want to live in a community that has tons of loose dogs, but what I want to live in even less is a community where this sort of thing is allowed to slide.

    Yes, the owner should NEVER have let his dog run loose. However, that does not make what was done to the dog acceptable course of action for anything short of an actual attack.
     
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    I am not excusing what the guy did. It was horrific. Totally unnessecary

    But I also can't have a lot of sympathy for the owner. He put his dog in that position and continues to put his oter dog in danger... The blood is on his hands too.

    I DO feel terrible for the poor dogs :(
     
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    Got to agree with Mia.

    The machete swinging nut is a monster, and hopefully karma will bring it back around sooner rather than later. His being a monster does not change the fact that YOUR pet is YOUR responsibility to protect, restrain, contain, and all the rest that goes along with it.

    IMO, the dog probably didn't threaten Mr. Machete.........still doesn't matter. The law says keep your property (dog) contained, not roaming around on other peoples' property. It's terrible, and I blame the owner of the dog the most :(
     
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    If you read the guys statement his dog wasn't just wandering like he left it outside all the time. The dog slipped the leash. Did he need a better leash? Definitely. But I think it's sick people are so ok with this and blame the victims which are the dog and his owner.

    Also if you watch the news report you can see the blood trail and it is clearly in the middle of the street and not the neighbors yard.

    For a dog forum quite a few people are siding with the the guy who chased down and killed a dog with a machete and I find that pretty shocking.
     

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