is my doggy too little?

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  1. Fran27

    Fran27 New Member

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    It sucks :( I agree though, if the litter was an accident he probably didn't test his dogs for diseases and just wants to get rid of the litter. It's probably why they are cheap. It's up to you though, if you are willing to take the risk or not.
     
  2. Richie12345

    Richie12345 Active Member

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    Well the book I read, "The Ultimate Encyclopedia of Dogs, Dog Breeds, and Dog care" by Dr. PeterLarkmin (He's a very reputable....Dog...Doctor... person... well, I dont know what he is now but he used to be a very skilled veterinarian), said the minimum is 6 Weeks, but it is recommended to get a dog that is 8 weeks old. So the dog won't die, or whatever, but it's best to wait 8 weeks.
     
  3. BigDog2191

    BigDog2191 Big German Shepherd

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    Despite what a lot of people said, I believe there is nothing wrong with getting a dog that's six weeks old... but nothing less than that.

    He bonds with YOU more. The only problem with this is that they have a little more nipping problems.

    My advice, go for it.
     
  4. gaddylovesdogs

    gaddylovesdogs no touchy

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    Just to let you know, LEA already has her pup. A JRT/Pomeranian mix named Poe, if I'm correct.

    While you can get a pup at six weeks doesn't mean you should. They need to be with their mother and littermates at that time. In many places you can get four week old puppies, but just because you can doesn't mean you should.
     
  5. Fran27

    Fran27 New Member

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    Well I should have shut up because the pup I'm getting on Saturday wasn't with his mom for 8 weeks either.. But I guess it's a bit different because he's a rescue and the owners just put him in a shelter at 6 weeks I think :(

    Anyway, how is the pup going?
     
  6. dogexpert2005

    dogexpert2005 Playful Pup

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    Wow, a puppy at 6 weeks in the pound? Amazing. Almost all the dogs at my dog park are rescues, and my dog Niki loves them all! She loves to see her friends. I got her though when she was 3 month old.
     
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    dogexpert2005 Playful Pup

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    A little late.
     
  8. poeluvr

    poeluvr New Member

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    my puppys actually doing fine, i wouldnt recommend getting them at 6 weeks though , u guys r right. he really isnt that bad he sleeps with me and is totally adorable fine with small dogs, but is scared of big dogs and people he first meets usually barks at them. i am taking him to pup school in summer so all should be well. thanks gaddylove dogs for updating for me
     
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    SandStone_Kennels New Member

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    She calls herself a breeder?? With that i don't think so. I would'nt get the pup JUST because its cute. ALL puppies are cute. Even coatless pups are. Think about it. Really. You'll have problems in the future. Definately. Most probably with other dogs and strangers. Think about it
     
  10. juliefurry

    juliefurry Rusty but Trusty

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    My lab puppy was cheap and both her parents were tested for hip dysplasia and blindness. The puppy was probably cheap because it is mixed and it's not going to be able to be in shows. My puppy was cheap because (although a purebreed) she will not be able to be in shows because she is not show quality. you can just tell she wouldn't make a good showdog she doesn't have what it takes (but that doesn't mean she's not an excellent pet).
     
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    Julie... you've got a wonderful dog . She's yours and you love her. Your pup is not pure bred if she was mixed ...regardless, love her , spay her and have a great life with her!!
     
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    BagelDog Not crazy...

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    6 weeks is an okay age to take them from the mother though, any younger is too young. 8 is the best, but 6 isnt too young.
     
  13. Fran27

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    I believe they learn important things from their mother between 6 and 8 weeks though.. I would trust the more experience people of the forums about it personally.

    Tips was probably taken from his mom way before 7 weeks too though, but he's a rescue and he needed a home. I wish I knew the owners though so I could tell them what I think...
     
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    blue Jerk.

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    From my experience I would not purposely get a pup under 8 weeks unless it was a rescue. Blue was alot of work and still is, he was taken from mom and the litter at or before 5 weeks.

    Edit: Im only chiming in, so my info and expirience is posted, again.
     
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    I'm worried sometimes with Tips too, but he doesn't seem to be more work than Boris, all things considered. And he's so food orientated that he will do anything for you once you have some, which helps.
     
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    smkie pointer/labrador/terrier Staff Member

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    6 weeks is not ok..there are a great many reasons for this..
    health..the longer a pup nurses the healthier it is period
    social..all that nipping and chewing on each other is normal..and this is the time for MOM dog to do her thing in teaching order and what is too hard and not to hard. They need this time to ruff and tumble and sleep in piles of the brothers and sisters..having the warmth of the litter to sustain them for the rest of their lives..
    Mom needs to keep them at least until 8 weeks..it is best for her, in fact my old boss always kept one to train so mom could have her pup a little longer for her joy.
    8 weeks is the absolute earliest a pup should ever but ever leave the litter.
    Each week is critical.
     
  17. Athe

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    Fran27, The breeder of my Newfoundland dogs. She has large breed dogs (Newfoundland dogs), she takes the mother away from the pups at the age of 3 1/2 weeks. This is due to the mother being large and the breeder having to stay with the mom and pups to constantly supervise that the pups are not stepped on in error. the pups begin being weaned at about 3 weeks and mom is just brought back for nursing while they are being put on solid food at around 4 weeks. These pups turn out fantastic and are more focused on human companionship, they have no shyness or fears because they have been properly socilaized by the breeder. I also have a female Newf that was kept with the mother, she is a nervous wreck and it took me years to overcome her fearfulness etc. her problem is probably more genetic, but, the breeding was repeated and all the pups were taken away earlier than my fearful Newf and they turned out wonderful. BTW, my fearful Newf is a champion in USA and Canada.

    When I was growing up all of our pups were given to us at the age of about 5 - 6 weeks. We took the pup's every were and they got the socialization they required, they were the best dogs a child could have owned. One being a Shepherd/Husky mix the other a Border Collie/Lab mix...they were trustworthy, and could handle themselves in any situation. The age we adopted them did not affect thier future manners. I have seen just as many freaky and fearful pups that were kept with the mother and other pups, perhaps more. And I see it A LOT more in inbred mixed breeds (purebred dogs) than I have seen in natural breeds or mixed breeds...although I have seen my fair share in the latter as well.
    I believe a lot has to do with the new owner of the pup and how well they do socializing the pup. ;) you can always find puppy play groups for your pup to join. At least in my area we have little groups for young pups after their first jab where there is an obedience instructer there just to over see every thing and help the puppy owners.
    As far as genetic testing, I have seen the best dogs get all cert's and still produce pups that have HD and other genetic disorder. Genetic disease are caused by purebred breeding and even in clean tested lines you can still produce genetic disasters, I see it all the time. One litter of Bull Mastiff's from genetically clean lines (tested for every thing) were so bad off the breeder had to euthanize the whole litter. So, genetic testing is no garantee, and even a dog that clears at 2 years of age can still get HD or ED latter in life. :)
    Many reputable breeders are saving themselves from refunds etc. by writing in the gaurantee "so long as the dog can still function as a pet".
    Good luck with your new pup.
     
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    My pups would go to their homes the closest Saturday morning to their 8th week. From my " Bible"...." 5 to 7th week : weaning begins,curious,little sense of fear,participates in group activites and sexual play, dominance orderis beginning.This is an extremely important time in the puppy's life. It is the period when the pup is totally dependent on the envirment that you provide for him to stimulate and develophis genetic qualities." ...There's a whole chapter on this it's so important..........." Pups that don't go through these two periods of learning ( having been isolated or over protected) tend to become hyperactive adults." ..............." socialization reaches a peak by the 49th day........In other words,the amount of individual attention that a puppy has received by the 49th day can never be made upwithout a proportionately larger expenditure of time and effort " ......
     
  19. poeluvr

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    she doesnt call herself a breeder i did, didnt know what else to call her! she did by accident, i dont know her im not saying shes a good person im saying they were already born and needed a home, i could provide a good one. i also got the impreesion if i didnt take it it would be put in a pound! i did not get it because it was cute. i wanted a pom, the most, a jack russell was also high on my list. so i got him he needed a home. i didnt ask her to breed him, or tell her she should, i got what was already there. :mad:
    i have him already since last i wrote hes being much better, he doesnt nip now, knows some commands and you dont even need a leash to walk him for 11 weeks old i say thats **** good!
     
  20. caseyolee

    caseyolee Border Collies R' Us

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    I have bought 6 week old pups before. I don't do it regularly, but with Border Collies, the younger you get them the better they will turn out (from my experience). I PA is't illegal to sell/buy a pup under 7 weeks, but I buy mine from out of state. Each state is different. I myself don't sell pups till 8 weeks.
     

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